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Avodah Zarah 8


(a) We just cited a Machlokes between Rebbi Eliezer and Rebbi Yehoshua on the one hand, and the Chachamim on the other, as to whether one may request one's personal needs during the Amidah.
Like whom is the Halachah?

(b) What alternative does Rav Yehudah B'rei de'Rav Shmuel bar Shilas in the name of Rav offer?

(c) And what does Rebbi ...

  1. ... Chiya bar Ashi Amar Rav say about someone who has a sick person in his house, or someone who needs Parnasah?
  2. ... Yehoshua ben Levi say about someone who has finished the Amidah?
(a) We already discussed the Din of Kalanda, Satrunya and Kartesim (our Mishnah reads 'Satarnura' and 'Kartisim'). Our Mishnah adds 'Yom Genusya shel Malcheihem'.
What does this mean?

(b) Which other two days does Rebbi Meir add?

(c) What do the Chachamim say? When is the day of the king's death considered a festival and when is it not?

(d) What does the Tana say about the day that the king shaves his beard and his 'B'luris' (what is a 'B'luris'), the day that he returns from a trip at sea and the day that he is set free from prison?

(a) The Tana describes Adam ha'Rishon's mood from the time of his creation.
Why was he depressed for the three-month period until mid-winter (Tekufas Teives)?

(b) What did he do about it?

(c) What caused his mood to change? What did he do about that?

(d) How will the opinion that Adam was created in Nisan, explain this, seeing as he had experienced the days getting shorter (already from Tekufas Tamuz)?

(e) What does all this have to do with Kalanda and Satrunya?

(a) Another Beraisa describes Adam's mood the first Motza'ei Shabbos after his creation.
Why was he depressed?

(b) What did he and Chavah do about it?

(c) What caused his mood to change?

(d) What did he do about that?

(a) With regard to the bull that Adam sacrificed, the Tana quotes the Pasuk in Tehilim ... "Ve'seitiv la'Hashem mi'Shor Par Makrin Mafris".
What is the significance of ...
  1. ... the order of the words "Makrin Mafris"? What is special about this?
  2. ... the spelling of the word "Makrin" (Rav Yehudah Amar Rav)?
(b) What is the gist of David's Tefilah inherent in this Pasuk?
(a) Rav Masna asked whether, bearing in mind that it was the Romans who celebrated Kalanda, the prohibition of engaging in business with the adherents of Avodah-Zarah extended to the surrounding states, who did not worship that Avodah-Zarah. What is the She'eilah? Why should it?

(b) Rebbi Yehoshua takes the strict view.
What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(c) Even those Poskim who tend to rule like Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi on principle, concede here that the Halachah is like Rebbi Yochanan.
Why is that?

(d) What does the Beraisa say about ...

  1. ... Saturnalya, Kartesim and the day of the coronation? What do they all have in common?
  2. ... a Nochri who made a party to celebrate the birth of his son?
(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'Yom Tiglachas B'no ... ve'Yom she'Yatza mi'Beis ha'Asurim Ein Asur Ela Oso ha'Yom Bil'vad ve'Oso ha'Ish'.
What does Rav Ashi prove from the Lashon 've'Oso ha'Ish'?

(b) What does Rebbi Yishmael in a Beraisa mean when he says 'Yisrael she'be'Chutzah la'Aretz Ovdei Avodas Kochavim be'Taharah Hein'?

(c) Will it make a difference if they ...

  1. ... eat their own food?
  2. ... are served by their own waiters?
(d) He learns this from the Pasuk in Ki Sisa "ve'Kara Lecha ve'Achalta mi'Zivcho".
How does Rebbi Yishmael learn from there that the prohibition speaks even when they eat their own food, bearing in mind that the Torah did write "ve'Achalta ... "?
(a) For how long after the event does Rav Papa forbid participatomg in the party, assuming that the Nochri ..
  1. ... did not mention the occasion in his invitation?
  2. ... did mention it? After how long does he (quoting Rava) permit participating in the party, even if he specifically explained why he organized it?
(b) How will we then explain Rav Yitzchak b'rei de'Rav Mesharshaya, who heard the Nochri praise his god when he participated in his party, even after twelve months had already elapsed?
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(a) If, as Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel explains, 'Kartesim' commemorates the day that the Romans seized power from the Greeks, how does Rav Yosef explain the Beraisa 'Kartesim ve'Yom she'Tafsah Bo Romi Malchus'?

(b) According to Rav Dimi, how many battles did Rome fight against Greece before finally vanquishing it?

(c) Who helped them to achieve final victory?

(d) What agreement did the Romans enter into with them?

(a) The Romans finally overcame the Greeks, not through battle, but through litigation.
What is the order of significance of a pearl, a precious stone and a carbuncle? Which would serve as a base for which (see Agados Maharsha, that these three represent the three nations that preceded Rome)?

(b) What does this have to do with a Sefer-Torah?

(c) How many years did it take the Romans to abrogate their treaty with Yisrael?

(d) If initially, they Darshened the Pasuk in Vayishlach 'Nis'ah Ve'neilechah ve'Eilchah le'Negdecha', which Pasuk did they Darshen afterwards?

(a) Rav Kahana cites the episode where Rebbi Yishmael b'Rebbi Yossi fell ill.
What information did Rebbi ask from him?

(b) How many years before the destruction of the second Beis Hamikdash did the Romans come to power?

(c) Eighty years before the Churban, the Chachamim decreed Tum'ah on two things. One of them, was the lands of the Nochrim.
What was the other?

(a) What happened forty years before the Churban?

(b) Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi's suggests that the ramifications of this move were that they could no longer judge 'Diynei K'nasos'.
What is his source for this?

(c) We reject this suggestion however, because of an incident with Rebbi Yehudah ben Bava, whom Rav Yehudah Amar Rav praised, because, he said, if not for him, Diynei K'nasos would have been forgotten.
Why do we find it necessary to amend this statement?

(d) How do we amend it?

(a) What did the Romans threaten to do the with person who received Semichah and the person who gave it?

(b) Why did Rebbi Yehudah ben Bava give his Talmidim Semichah between two big mountains and between two Techumei Shabbos?

(c) What is the significance of 'between Shefaram and Usha'?

(d) He gave Semichah to Rebbi Meir, Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yossi.
Who were the other two Talmidim who received Semichah from him?

(e) What does Rav Ivya say about Rebbi Nechemyah?

(a) What did Rebbi Yehudah ben Bava say to his Talmidim ...
... when they saw the Romans approaching from a distance? ... when the Talmidim asked him what would happen to *him*?
(b) What actually happened to him?

(c) How do we prove from this episode that Diynei K'nasos did not cease to be judged after the Sanhedrin left the Lishkas ha'Gazis?

(a) So how does Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak explain the ramifications of the Sanhedrin's exile?

(b) Why did the Sanhedrin leave the Lishkas ha'Gazis?

(c) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Shoftim "Ve'asisa al-Pi ha'Davar Asher Yagidu Lecha min ha'Makom ha'Hu"?

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