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Avodah Zarah 17


(a) According to the second Lashon, "Harchek me'Alehah Darkech" refers both to Miynus and to the Rashus.
What does "ve'Al Tikrav el Pesach Beisah" then refer to?

(b) How far away should one remain from them?

(c) The Rabbanan who disagree with Rebbi Eliezer (and with Ya'akov Ish K'far S'chanya) learn from the Pasuk "Ki me'Esnan Zonah Kaftzah ve'Ad Esnan Yashuvu" like the Drashah of Rav Chisda.
What does Rav Chisda learn from the Pasuk in Yechezkel "u've'Sitech Esnan ve'Esnan Lo Niten Lecha, va'Tehi le'Hefech"?

(d) Rebbi P'das disagrees with Rav Chisda, who requires a distance of four Amos from a Zonah.
What does Rebbi P'das Darshen from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos "Ish Ish el Kol She'er Besaro Lo Sikrevu Legalos Ervah"?

(a) What would Ula do when he came home from the Beis Hamedrash?

(b) This appears to clash with a statement that he himself made.
What did Ula say about this very sort of behavior?

(c) What does this have to do with a vineyard?

(a) Assuming that 'Alukah' means Gehinom, who are its two daughters who scream 'Hav Hav' in this world?

(b) Why do they scream 'Hav Hav'?

(c) Why do they now scream from Gehinom?

(d) Who screams 'Hav Hav' in the second Lashon?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Mishlei ...
  1. ... "Kol Ba'ehah Lo Yeshuvun"?
  2. ... "ve'Lo Yasigu Orchos Chayim"?
(b) What is the reason for this?

(c) What confession did that woman make before Rav Chisda?

(d) What did Rav Chisda expect to happen? Why was that?

(a) What do we extrapolate from the fact that she referred to that sin as 'Kalah she'be'Kalos'?

(b) What problem does the fact that she did not die pose on what we just learned?

(c) How do we solve this problem?

(d) According to the second Lashon, the woman did indeed die.
How do we know that she died because of Miynus and not from the sin of incest?

(a) Who was Elazar ben Durdaya? Why did he once travel overseas with a cupful of Dinrim?

(b) What did the Zonah say that sparked off his Teshuvah process?

(c) Where did he place himself when he did?

(d) The mountains refused to Daven for him and so did Heaven and earth (because they had enough on their plate Davening for themselves).
Which other two 'pairs' refused to Daven on his behalf for similar reasons?

(a) What conclusion did Elazar ben Durdaya arrive at?

(b) So what did he do? What happened to him?

(c) How does this seem to clash with what we said earlier about people who are guilty of this area of sin?

(d) How do we resolve the apparent discrepancy?

(a) What did the bas-Kol announce when Elazar ben Durdaya died?

(b) Besides 'Yesh Koneh Olamo be'Kamah Shanim ... ', what else did Rebbi announce that he did not announce on the previous occasion?

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(a) Rebbi Chanina and Rebbi Yonasan were traveling together on a journey.
What dilemma were they faced with?

(b) Why did one of them suggest that they take the road that passed the Beis Avodah-Zarah, rather than the one that passed the brothel?

(c) What did the other one argue?

(d) He based this decision on the Pasuk in Mishlei "mi'Zimah Tishmor Alach, Tevunah Sintzerekah".
How did the Rabbanan explain this Pasuk in front of Rava?

(e) Why can the Pasuk not mean that Torah which is called 'Zimah' (advice) will guard you?

(a) When Rebbi Elazar ben P'rata and Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon were both taken by the Romans, what made the former think that the latter was more fortunate than him?

(b) What did Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon reply? On what merit was Rebbi Elazar ben P'rata destined to be set free, whilst he was not?

(c) How does Rav Huna describe someone who studies Torah but who does not indulge in Chesed?

(a) What did Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov say about donating money to a Tzedakah-fund? What example does he give of the sort of person who runs it?

(b) What Kashya does this pose on what Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon just said about himself?

(c) On what grounds do we reject the answer that Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov was only presenting Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon as the epitome of integrity, but that in reality, he was not a Gabai-Tzedakah?

(d) So how do we resolve the problem? What exactly, did Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon mean when he differentiated between Rebbi Elazar ben P'rata and himself?

(a) What did Rebbi Elazar ben P'rata reply when the Romans ...
  1. ... accused him of learning Torah and stealing?
  2. ... asked him why he was called Rebbi?
(b) How did the Romans challenge this claim?

(c) How did he manage to identify them, despite his total ignorance in these matters?

(d) And what did he reply when they asked him why he ...

  1. ... failed to attend the 'Bei Avidan' (a gathering in honor of their gods, where they would eat and drink and discuss ways of improving its service)?
  2. ... had set free his Eved Cana'ani (in spite of the law forbidding it)?
(a) What happened when they asked him how many old men he knew of had been trampled to death at the 'Bei Avidan'?

(b) Why did Eliyahu ha'Navi suddenly arrive in court? What was he disguised as?

(c) What warning did he issue him?

(d) What happened next? Why did the man fail to return to give evidence?

(a) What did Rebbi Chanina ben T'radyon reply when they asked him why he had studied Torah?

(b) They sentenced him to death by burning.
What sentence did they mete out to ...

  1. ... his wife?
  2. ... his daughter?
(c) What sin had he committed for which he deserved to die?

(d) And what was the sin of ...

  1. ... his wife?
  2. ... his daughter?
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