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Avodah Zarah 35


(a) When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, how did he explain the Pasul "Ki Tovim Dodecha mi'Ya'yin" (which we discussed in the Mishnah)? How does he interpret "Dodecha", and how does he interpret "Yayin"?

(b) When Rebbi Yehosha cited this Pasuk to Rebbi Yishmael, Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi (or bar Ami) explains, he really had in mind the previous Pasuk "Yishakeini mi'Neshikos Piyhu". What was he hinting to him with this Pasuk? What did he have in mind when he said ...

  1. ... 'Chashok Sifsosecha Zu be'Zu ... '?
  2. ... 've'Al Tevahel Le'hashiv'?
(c) In fact, says Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, the reason that the Chachamim forbade the cheese of Beis Unaiki is because of Nikur.
What does 'Nikur' mean?

(d) Rebbi Yehoshua did not want to tell this to Rebbi Yishmael, based on a statement by Ula.
What did Ula say about the Minhag in Eretz Yisrael following new decrees?

(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah objected strongly against Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi's reason (due to the fear of snake-bite), on account of a statement by Rebbi Chanina.
What did Rebbi Chanina say about uncovered wine or beer (that is forbidden because of possible snake venom) that dried or became old?

(b) Rebbi Chanina (or Rebbi Yirmiyah) therefore explains the reason for the prohibition as 'L'fi sh'I Efshar Lah be'Lo Tzichtzuchei Chalav? What does he mean by that?

(c) Shmuel himself attributes it to the fact that they used to place the milk in the skin of a Neveilah.
Why is this any worse than placing it in milk in the stomach, which our Mishnah permitted?

(d) What do we extrapolate from this with regard to the milk in the stomach of a Neveilah itself?

(a) What does the Mishnah in Chulin say about the stomach of a Nochri's animal and of Neveilah?

(b) We ask why the former does not incorporate the latter.
How does Shmuel amend the Mishnah to answer the Kashya?

(c) How do reconcile the two contradictory statements of Shmuel (both permitting [the milk in] the stomach and forbidding?

(d) Then why did Rebbi not remove our Mishnah from the text?

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(a) According to Rav Malkiya in the name of Rav Ada bar Ahavah, the Chachamim decreed on Nochri cheese because they tend to smear them with pig fat, and according to Rav Chisda, because they would stand them in (wine) vinegar.
What does Rav Nachman say?

(b) We suggest that the author of our Mishnah must then be Rebbi Eliezer in the Mishnah in Orlah.
What does Rebbi Eliezer say there about someone who stands food in the sap of Orlah?

(c) We conclude however, that our Mishnah could even go like Rebbi Yehoshua. Why might Rebbi Yehoshua (who argues with Rebbi Eliezer there) agree with him here?

(d) And we prove this from Rebbi Yehoshua's own words in the Mishnah in Orlah.
What does Rebbi Yehoshua say there with regard to someone who stands food in ...

  1. ... the sap of the leaves or of the roots?
  2. ... the sap of unripe figs?
(a) What problem do we have with the last two explanations (Rav Nachman and Rav Chisda)?

(b) How do we resolve the problem?

(a) What does Rav Chisda Darshen from the Pasuk in Koheles ...
  1. ... "le'Rei'ach Shemanecha Tovim"?
  2. ... "Shemen Turak Shemecha"?
(b) And what does he Darshen from the continuation of the Pasuk "Alamos Ahevucha"? How will we then read "Alamos"?

(c) How can we also understand "Alamos" by way of an acronym?

(d) And how else might we read it?

(a) What does our Mishnah say about milk that a Nochri milked without a Yisrael being present, Nochri bread and Nochri oil? What do they all have in common?

(b) Why do we erase the text that Rebbi later permitted Nochri oil from our Mishnah?

(c) Why does the Tana include cooked dishes and pickled foods in the above list?

(a) T'ris (a type of small, salted Kasher fish) and Tzir (fish-juice) appear on the list too.
Under which conditions is ...
  1. ... T'ris forbidden?
  2. ... Tzir permitted?
(b) The list of things that are forbidden to eat but Mutar be'Hana'ah ends with Chilak (a Kasher fish known as 'Sultanis', which does not initially grow fins and scales, and which generally catches similar looking non-Kasher fish), a grain of Chiltis (a kind of sharp fruit) and Salkundis salt (which will be discussed in the Sugya).
Why are the latter two forbidden to eat?
(a) What problem do we have with the Isur of drinking non-Shomered milk? How would we...
  1. ... know immediately if the milk was from a non-Kasher animal?
  2. ... soon discover if the Nochri had only added non-Kasher milk?
(b) How do we answer this Kashya, assuming the second suspicion to be the authentic one?

(c) Why can we not test the milk ...

  1. ... by taking a little and making cheese (which if it doesn't work, will prove that it must be non-Kasher milk)?
  2. ... even if one intends to use it all for cheese?
(a) What did Rav Kahana Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about Beis-Din permitting bread baked by a Nochri?

(b) He found it necessary to say this because of an episode with Rebbi, related by Rav Dimi.
What did Rebbi say once about a large Pas Purni? What is 'Pas Purni'?

(c) What did Rebbi mean when he proclaimed 'Mah Ra'u Chachamim le'Osrah'?

(d) Why can he not have meant literally what he said?

(a) What erroneous conclusion did people draw from Rebbi's statement?

(b) Rav Yosef (or Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah) present a different version of the above episode.
What sort of baker was Rebbi referring to, according to his version, when, upon arriving at a place and discovering insufficient bread for all the Talmidim, he asked whether there was no baker in the vicinity?

(c) What did they think he meant?

(a) There are those however, who conclude that Rebbi actually meant a Nochri baker, like we thought at first. Rebbi Chelbo qualifies this by confining it to where there is no Jewish baker (even in town).
What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(b) What did Eivu used to do when walking through fields belonging to Egyptians?

(c) What declaration did Rava (or Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak) subsequently make concerning Eivu?

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