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Avodah Zarah 40

AVODAH ZARAH 40 (20 Nisan) - Today's Daf has been sponsored by Martin Fogel of Carlsbad, California in memory of his father, Yaakov ben Shlomo Fogel, on the day of his Yahrzeit.


(a) What does the Tana of the Beraisa consider not mashed regarding the Din of 'T'ris she'Einah Terufah'?

(b) The Beraisa also defines 'Tzir she'Yesh Bah Dagah, as when one or two Kilbiyos are floating in it. If one Kilbis is sufficient, why does the Tana then need to add 'or two'?

(c) Rav Huna interprets the earlier Beraisa 'Kol she'Rosh ve'Shedrah Nikar Bah' literally.
What does Rav Nachman say?

(a) How does Abaye reconcile what we just learned with the Mishnah in Chulin, which gives the Si'man for fish as fins and scales, which seemingly precludes the Simanim in our Mishnah? What are 'Ar'a and 'Palmuda'?

(b) How does Rav Yehudah in the name of Ula qualify this Machlokes? What would be the Din if the T'ris was whole?

(c) When Rebbi Zeira heard this, what did he stop doing?

(d) On what grounds had he previously eaten them with one Siman?

(a) What additional Chumra does Rav Papa add with regard to the Si'man of the head and the backbone?

(b) What does the Beraisa say about pieces of fish where even one in a hundred has a Si'man?

(c) What did Raban Shimon ben Gamliel rule when a Nochri brought him a dish full of pieces of fish, of which he discovered one to have the Simanim?

(d) How does Rav Papa reconcile his own ruling with this Beraisa?

(e) Then what is the Chidush?

(a) What did Rav Huna bar Chin'na rule when a ship-load of fish-juice arrived in Sichra, in which he saw scales floating?

(b) What problem did Rava have with this ruling (see Tosfos DH 've'Chaza Beih')?

(c) What happened next?

(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah from Difti cited Rav Papi, who told him that Rav Huna bar Chin'na only permitted the above case with regard to juice, but not with regard to the fish themselves.
What did Rav Ashi citing Rav Papa, say?

(b) As a result of Rav Papa's statement, Rav Ashi declined to forbid the pieces of fish that were on the boat.
Why did he also decline to declare them Kasher?

(c) What did Rav Chin'na bar Idi say in front of Rav Ada bar Ahavah with regard to a Nochri who brought in a small boat-load of barrels in one of which they found Kilbis, assuming the barrels were ...

  1. ... open?
  2. ... shut?
(d) What is the reason for the first of the two rulings?

(e) From which three great Chachamim did Rav Chin'na bar Idi hear this ruling?

(a) What did Rav B'runa (or Rav Kahana) Amar Rav rule with regard to the purchase of fish-innards and fish-eggs?

(b) What distinction does the Beraisa draw between the way a non-Kasher fish and a Kasher fish give birth to their young?

(c) What Kashya did this Beraisa cause Ula to ask Rav Dusta'i from Biri on Rav's previous ruling? What did Ula extrapolate from there?

(d) What did Rav Dusta'i from Biri reply?

(e) How did Rebbi Zeira explain the Beraisa to reconcile it with Rav, without erasing 'Ubran'?

(a) What objection do we raise to the wording of the Beraisa 'ke'Simnei Beitzim Kach Simnei Dagim'?

(b) So how do we amend the end of the statement ('Kach Simnei Dagim')?

(c) How can one distinguish between a Kasher egg and a non-Kasher one ...

  1. ... by its shape?
  2. ... by the positioning of its white and yoke?
(d) And how would one recognize the egg of a Sheretz?
(a) In light of these Simanim, how does Rava explain the need to purchase Ubrei Dagim specifically from experts? Why can not simply look for the Simanim?

(b) How will Rav Dusta'i from Biri (who erased 'Ubrei Dagim' from the text) now explain 'Kach Simnei Ubrei Dagim'?

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(a) In the event that there is no 'Mumcheh', one may nevertheless purchase fish-innards and eggs from someone who declares that he salted them. What must he add to that?

(b) This is the opinion of Rav Yehudah.
What does Rav Nachman say?

(c) What did Rav Yehudah indicate to Ada Dayla? What does 'Dayla' mean?

(a) Why does the Tana find it necessary to permit the purchase of ...
  1. ... whole leaves of Chiltis from a Nochri? Why is this not obvious?
  2. ... 'Zeisei Gluska'os ha'Megulgalin'?
(b) Rebbi Yossi forbids Shalachin.
How does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina define 'Shalachin'?
(a) What does the Tana of the Beraisa say about locusts, flowers of a caper-bush and leek with heads that come straight from a store, the place where they are piled or from the ship?

(b) Why are leeks with heads not forbidden because of Bishul Akum?

(c) Under which circumstances may one not purchase any of the above from a Nochri?

(d) And what does the Tana say about purchasing apple-cider from Nochrim?

(a) What did Rebbi once ask when he suffered from stomach-ache?

(b) Rebbi Yishmael b'Rebbi Yossi cited an incident that occurred with his father, when he too suffered from the same ailment.
What did they bring him? Did it work?

(c) Rebbi reprimanded him for hiding such important information from him up to that moment.
What happened next?

(d) What B'rachah did he recite (presumably without Shem and Malchus)?

(a) Our Mishnah concludes 've'Chein li'Terumah'.
How does Rav Sheishes explain this?

(b) What is the reason for the leniency when buying from him from the storehouse?

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(a) Why does Rebbi Meir render all images Asur be'Hana'ah?

(b) According to the Chachamim, they are only forbidden if they are holding one of three things. Two of them are a stick and a bird.
What is the third?

(c) What does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say?

(d) We ask that if all idols were served once a year, why the Chachamim permitted them.
How do we know that the Chachamim concur with Rebbi Meir in that point?

(a) How does Rebbi Yitzchak bar Yosef Amar Rebbi Yochanan explains the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and the Chachamim?

(b) How does this explain why Rebbi Meir forbids all empty-handed images?

(c) Would Rebbi Meir forbid *any* image that they would worship?

(d) Where are the prohibited images placed, according to Rabah bar bar Chanah?

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