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Avodah Zarah 65


(a) On what basis did Rav Yehudah send Avidrana a gift on the day of his festival? Who was Avidrana?

(b) Rav Yosef queried Rav Yehudah from the Beraisa that we just learned, which requires the Ger Toshav to accept 'Geirus' in front of three Talmidei-Chachamim.
What did he reply? Which aspect of Ger Toshav requires three Talmidei-Chachamim?

(c) How did Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan describe a Ger Toshav who failed to perform the B'ris Milah within twelve months?

(d) Assuming Avidrana to have been a Ger Toshav of long standing, how do we establish Rebbi Yochanan, to reconcile it with Rav Yehudah?

(a) Rava did the same as Rav Yehudah with a Nochri by the name of bar Sheishach.
What did he discover him doing when he went to visit him, and found him in a bathhouse? What sort of bath was he enjoying?

(b) What did he reply, when bar Sheishach asked him whether Yisrael were destined to enjoy such bliss in Olam ha'Ba?

(c) What happened when ...

  1. ... bar Sheishach retorted that he had no reason to fear the Emperor?
  2. ... Rava said 'Amein' after bar Sheishach's B'rachah? Which B'rachah?
(d) What is the connection between our Sugya and the Pasuk ...
  1. ... in Tehilim "B'nos Melachaim bi'Yekrosecha Nitzvah Sheigel li'Yeminecha" quoted by Rav Papi?
  2. ... in Yeshayah "Ayin Lo Ra'asah Elokim Zulasecha, Ya'aseh li'Mechakeh Lo" quoted by Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak?
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that if the Nochri hired the Yisrael to do other work, then he may accept his wages, even though the Nochri also asks him to transport a barrel of Yayin Nesech. What do we mean when we say that he does not need to have said 'le'Itosei Erev'?

(b) What does the Beraisa say that appears to contradict this?

(c) Abaye therefore establishes our Mishnah when the Nochri added 'le'Itosei Erev'. Rava reconciles the two without changing our Mishnah, by drawing a distinction between 'Ha'aver Li Chavis Chavis bi'Perutah' and 'Ha'aver Li Me'ah Chavi'os be'Me'ah P'rutos'.
How does this resolve our problem?

(d) How do we prove Rava right?

(a) What problem do we have with the continuation of the Mishnah 'ha'Socher es ha'Chamor Le'havi Alehah Yayin Nesech, S'charo Asur'?

(b) And we answer that the Tana needed to add this Halachah because of the Seifa, which permits the owner to receive his rental even though the Nochri places his flask containing Yayin Nesech on the donkey's back.
What is the Chidush in that?

(c) What distinction does the Beraisa make between the owner of a donkey and the hirer? Which one is allowed to place (only) his coat, his jar of wine and enough food for the entire journey, and which one, barley, straw and food for (only) one day?

(a) How does this Beraisa seem to clash with what we just said?

(b) How do we answer this Kashya? Why does the flask of wine not pose a problem, despite the fact that the hirer has the right to place it on the donkey's back?

(c) Assuming that no food was available along the way, would the hirer be restricted to one day's food?

(d) If the Tana is then speaking when food is available along the way, how does Rav Papa explain the fact that the owner is permitted to take food for the entire journey, whilst the hirer may only take sufficient for one day?

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(a) The father of Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika was a wine-merchant.
What did he used to do after pouring the wine into the flasks of his Nochri clients?

(b) On what grounds did ...

  1. ... the clients return the barrels, which were customarily included in the sale?
  2. ... his fellow Jews complain to Abaye about Rav Ika's practice?
(c) What did Abaye answer ...
  1. ... to that?
  2. ... when they asked him further that he wanted the wine to remain in the flasks (i.e. that they should not split, so that it would not become necessary to pour the wine into the barrels)?
(d) Crossing them on the ferry was not forbidden, for one of two reasons, one of them, because Rav Ika, who was 'the head of the river', arranged in advance with the ferryman, to cross his clients together with their goods, whenever they arrived.
What is the other?
(a) If Yayin Nesech falls on grapes, when will washing suffice, and when will it not?

(b) If the wine falls on G'rogros or dates, what will be the criterion that renders them Asur? What are 'G'rogros'?

(c) What did the Chachamim rule, when a barrel of wine once spilt on to G'rogros that Bitus ben Zonin was transporting on a boat?

(d) The Tana ends with the principle 'Kol she'be'Hana'so be'Nosen Ta'am Asur ... '. What example does the Tana give to illustrate a case of 'Eino be'Nosen Ta'am'? What makes it 'Eino be'Nosen Ta'am'?

(a) How do we amend our Mishnah, which talks about the Isur of Nosen Ta'am, and illustrates it with the story of Bitus ben Zonin, which the Chachamim permitted?

(b) What does the Beraisa rule regarding a garment in which there is Kil'ayim that 'got lost'? May one use it as a saddle-cloth for his donkey?

(c) What may one use it for?

(d) On what grounds does the Beraisa forbid selling it to a Nochri?

(a) What did Rava initially rule when a barrel of wine spilt on a pile of wheat?

(b) What did Rabah bar Liva'i ask Rava, based on the Beraisa's previous ruling?

(c) Rava therefore retracted from his previous ruling.
What did he finally rule?

(d) Why did he add the clause 'she'Lo bi'Fenei Yisrael'?

(a) What did our Mishnah rule in a case where wine fell on to grapes that were not split?

(b) How did Rav Papa then explain Rava's stringent ruling with regard to the wheat?

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