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Avodah Zarah 73

AVODAH ZARAH 72-76 - Sponsored by a generous grant from an anonymous donor. Kollel Iyun Hadaf is indebted to him for his encouragement and support and prays that Hashem will repay him in kind.


(a) Does the Isur of Yayin Nesech extend to water?

(b) What Shiur does our Mishnah give for the Isur of Yayin Nesech?

(c) What does the Tana then say about 'Yayin be'Yayin' (Yayin Nesech that falls into Kasher wine) and 'Mayim be'Mayim'?

(d) When does Yayin Nesech require 'Nosen Ta'am' to render Asur what it falls into?

(a) When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, what did he quote Rebbi Yochanan as saying about someone who pours (even all day long) Yayin Nesech from a barrel into a wine-pit?

(b) How will Rav Dimi then explain ...

  1. ... the Reisha of our Mishnah, which gives the Shiur that Yayin Nesech renders as 'Kol she'Hu'?
    Which case is the Tana referring to?
  2. ... the Seifa 'Yayin be'Mayim be'Nosen Ta'am'?
(c) If the Tana is speaking about water which is Asur, how will he explain 'Mayim be'Yayin, be'Nosen Ta'am'?
(a) When Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef arrived from Eretz Yisrael, what did he quote Rebbi Yochanan as saying about someone who pours Yayin Nesech from a narrow jar into a wine-pit all day long?

(b) What would he say in Rav Dimi's case (where he pours it from a barrel)?

(c) When Ravin arrived from Eretz Yisrael, what did he cite Rebbi Yochanan as saying regarding a case where both Yayin Nesech and a large jar of water, fall into a wine-pit?

(d) How did Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah quoting Rebbi Yochanan qualify this ruling when he arrived from Eretz Yisrael?

(a) What do Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef, Ravin and Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah (all quoting Rebbi Yochanan) hold in the case of Rav Dimi Amar Rebbi Yochanan, regarding a barrel of wine that falls into a wine-pit?

(b) In the second Lashon, Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah Amar Rebbi Yochanan refers to the Din in our Mishnah 'Yayin be'Yayin Kol she'Hu'.
What did he then say about a large jar of water that fell in too?

(c) What is the difference between the two Leshonos of Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah?

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(a) What does Chizkiyah mean when he says that if Yayin Nesech and a large jar of water fall into a wine-pit ...
  1. ... 'Higdilu be'Isur, Asur'?
  2. ... 'Higdilu be'Heter, Mutar'?
(b) What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(c) We already discussed the Mishnah in Orlah, where a yeast of Chulin and a yeast of Terumah, neither of which were able to affect a dough on its own, but together, they did. Rebbi Eliezer goes after the one that fell in last.
What do the Chachamim say?

(d) How does Rebbi Yirmiyah try to equate the Machlokes between Chizkiyah and Rebbi Yochanan with that of Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan?

(a) How does Abaye qualify Rebbi Eliezer's ruling? When will Rebbi Eliezer forbid the dough even if the Chulin yeast fell in last?

(b) What problem does this then create with Chizkiyah's opinion?

(c) What is the basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan?

(d) The Machlokes between Chizkiyah and Rebbi Yochanan however, is whether we apply the principle 'Ro'in' there where the Heter fell in first (as we explained earlier). Why according to Chizkiyah, if the water and the Yayin Nesech fall into the Kasher wine, do we not say 'Ro'in', even if the water fell in first?

(a) What did Rebbi Asi ask Rebbi Yochanan about someone who had a cup of Chulin wine and a cup of Terumah wine, both of which he diluted before pouring one into the other?

(b) What was Rebbi Yochanan's reply?

(c) How do we reconcile this with his opinion in his Machlokes with Chizkiyah, where he holds 'Ro'in'?

(d) We support this answer with a statement of Rebbi Ami or Rebbi Asi, Amar Rebbi Yochanan.
What ruling did he issue regarding the case of two cups?

(a) Rav and Shmuel rule that by all Isurin in the Torah, 'Miyn be'Miyno be'Mashehu'.
What do they hold by 'Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno'?

(b) According to them, what does the Tana of our Mishnah come to include when he concludes 'Zeh ha'K'lal, Miyn be'Miyno be'Mashehu, Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno, be'Nosen Ta'am'?

(c) In which point do Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish argue?

(d) Which two Isurim are the sole exceptions?

(a) What does 'Zeh ha'K'lal, Miyn be'Miyno be'Mashehu' come to include, according to Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish?

(b) Which opinion enjoys the support of a Beraisa?

(c) If the source for Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish's stringent ruling regarding Yayin Nesech is 'Chumra da'Avodas-Kochavim, what is the source for their stringent ruling by Tevel?

(a) From where do we learn that one grain is sufficient to fulfill the Mitzvah of Terumah?

(b) How do we reconcile this with the Mishnah in Terumos which gives the average Shiur as a fiftieth?

(c) What Shiur does the Mishnah in Chalah give for 'Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno' by Tevel?

(d) What is the reason for this? What do we prove from there?

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