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1) DISTANCING DAMAGERS FROM A CITY
(a) We must distance Neveilos, graves and tanneries 50 Amos
from the city.
2) THE FOUR DIRECTIONS
(b) A tannery may only be made to the east of the city;
(c) R. Akiva says, it may be made in any direction except for
the west, and he must distance 50 Amos.
(d) We must distance a soaking pit from (his neighbor's)
vegetables, and leeks from onions, and mustard from bees;
(e) R. Yosi permits mustard near bees.
(f) (Gemara) Question: What does R. Akiva say?
1. Does he permit a tannery adjacent to the city in any
direction except for the west, and he requires 50
Amos if it is in the west?
(g) Answer (Beraisa - R. Akiva): One may make a tannery 50
Amos from the city in any direction except for the west;
2. Or, does he require 50 Amos in the other directions,
but the west is always forbidden?
1. The west is always forbidden, it is constant.
(h) Question (Rava): What does this mean?
1. Suggestion: The west wind blows more often than the
(i) Answer (Rav Nachman): It constantly hosts the Shechinah
2. Rejection: Rav Chanan bar Aba taught, all four winds
blow every day; the north wind blows with each one,
the world could not survive without this;
i. The south wind is the harshest; if not for an
angel that contains it, it would destroy the
(a) (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): We must be grateful to our
ancestors, they taught us the direction to pray in -
"U'Tzva ha'Shamayim Lecha Mishtachavim" (the sun, moon
and stars (appear to) travel westward).
(b) Objection (Rav Acha bar Yakov): Perhaps the Shechinah is
in the east; the sun, moon and stars bow to His Presence
as they depart, as a servant when he walks (backwards)
away from his master!
(c) This is left difficult.
(d) R. Oshaya holds that the Shechinah is everywhere.
1. (R. Oshaya): "Ata Hu Hash-m Levadecha" - Your
messengers are unlike a human's messengers!
(e) R. Yishmael also holds that the Shechinah is everywhere.
i. When a person sends a messenger, the messenger
later returns to where he was sent from;
ii. When Hash-m sends a messenger, the messenger
need not return (wherever he goes, Hash-m is
there) - "Hasishalach...v'Yelechu v'Yomeru
Lecha Hinenu" (the messenger reports back to
Hash-m at the place he goes to).
1. (Tana d'vei R. Yishmael): "Ha'Mal'ach...Yotzei
u'Mal'ach Acher Yotzei Likraso" - it does not say
that another angel is sent after the first, rather
he goes to greet him;
(f) Rav Sheshes also holds that the Shechinah is everywhere.
i. Hash-m can send the second angel from the place
the first angel was heading towards, because
the Shechinah is everywhere.
1. (Rav Sheshes was blind;) he told his servant 'You
can point me in any direction to pray, except for
(g) R. Avahu holds that the Shechinah is in the west.
2. The Shechinah is also in the east, Rav Sheshes did
not want to pray eastwards because Minim pray
1. Version #1 - (R. Avahu): 'Uriyah' (the west) - the
Avir of Kah (Hash-m).
(h) (Rav Yehudah): "Ya'arof ka'Matar Likchi" - this is the
west wind, which comes from the Oref (strength (the place
of the Shechinah; some explain, the back) of the world;
2. Version #2 - Rashi - (R. Avahu): 'Uriyah' (the east)
- the Avir that Kah faces.
1. "Tizal ka'Tal Imrasi" - this is the north wind,
which (brings heat and famine, which raises the
price of food and) Mazeles (cheapens) gold;
(i) (Beraisa - R. Eliezer): The world is like a three-walled
building; the north side is not covered;
2. "Ki'S'irim Alei Deshe" - this is the east wind,
which Mesa'eres (agitates) the entire world like a
3. "Vechi'Rvivim Alei Esev" - this is the south wind,
which brings Revivim (rain) and makes Asavim (herbs)
3) A PERSON'S 'ARROWS'
1. The sun traverses the other three directions; when
it reaches the northwest corner, it goes above the
Raki'a (and goes eastward overnight, and rises in
the northeast in the morning).
(j) R. Yehoshua says, the world is like a box, the north side
1. When the sun reaches the northwest corner, it goes
(through a window) in back of the box;
(k) R. Eliezer says, "umi'Mezarim Karah" this is the north
wind (which is cold, because the north side is exposed).
2. "Holech El Darom v'Sovev El Tzafon" - the sun
(always) travels along the south by day, and circles
around the north side by night.
3. "Sovev Sovev Holech ha'Ru'ach" - sometimes (i.e. in
summer) the sun travels along the east and west by
day, sometimes (i.e. in winter) it circles around
the east and west by night.
1. "V'Rochav Mayim b'Mutzak" - this is the east wind.
(l) (Rav Chisda): From the day of the Churban, the south wind
no longer brings rain - "Va'Yigzor Al Yamin v'Ra'ev";
2. Question: But we said that the south wind brings
3. Answer: The south wind brings rain gently, the east
wind brings gushing rain.
1. "Tzafon v'Yamin" - this shows that Yamin is south.
(m) (Rafram bar Papa): From the day of the Churban, rain does
not come from Hash-m's good storehouse;
1. "Yiftach...Otzaro ha'Tov" - only when Yisrael does
Hash-m's will, we dwell in Eretz Yisrael and merit
(n) (R. Yitzchak): One who wants to grow wise should face
southwards when praying, one who wants to grow rich
should face northwards when praying.
1. A way to remember this - the Menorah was in the
south, the Shulchan (in the Heichal) was in the
(o) (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): One should always face southwards
- by growing wise, he will grow rich - "Orech Yamim
bi'Minah bi'Semolah Osher v'Chavod".
(p) Question: But R. Yehoshua ben Levi said that the
Shechinah is in the west (so one should face west)!
(q) Answer: He should face west, he should tilt slightly to
(r) R. Chanina (to R. Yoshiyah): You live (in Bavel), to the
north of Eretz Yisrael, you should face southwards.
1. Question: What is the source that Bavel is to the
2. Answer: "Mi'Tzafon Tifasach ha'Ra'ah".
4) (Mishnah): We must distance a soaking pit from (his neighbor's)
vegetables, and leeks from onions, and mustard from bees.
(a) (Beraisa - R. Yosi): One may grow mustard near bees;
1. The neighbor cannot tell him to distance his mustard
(because it harms his bees), for he can say back,
distance your bees, they harm my mustard.
(b) (Mishnah): Reuven must distance his tree 25 Amos from
1. A carob or sycamore tree must be distanced 50 Amos.
(c) This is whether the tree is on ground above the pit or
even with it.
(d) If (the tree is too close and) the pit was there before
the tree, Shimon may cut the tree without compensating
1. If the tree was there before the pit, he may not cut
(e) R. Yosi says, even if the pit preceded the tree, he may
not cut it - just as Shimon may dig in his own property,
Reuven may plant in his own property!
(f) (Gemara - Beraisa): This is whether the tree is above the
pit or below it.
(g) Question: We understand, if the tree is above the pit,
its roots will descend and damage the pit;
1. But if the tree is below, what is the problem?
(h) Answer (R. Chaga): The roots spread to underneath the pit
and harm the soil there.
(i) (Mishnah - R. Yosi): Even if the pit preceded the tree,
he may not cut it - just as Shimon may dig in his own
property, Reuven may plant in his own property!
(j) (Rav Yehudah): The Halachah follows R. Yosi.
(k) (Rav Ashi): R. Yosi admits regarding Girei Dilei (his
arrows, i.e. damage that comes directly from the person's
(l) Papa Yona'ah was a poor man who became wealthy; he built
a house. There were people in his neighborhood who
pressed sesame to make oil; this caused his house to
1. Rav Ashi: R. Yosi admits regarding Girei Dilei.
2. Question: How much must the house shake to obligate
the pressers to distance themselves?
3. Answer: So much that if a vessel is on the wall
(Rashi; Ri - if a person holds a vessel), its cover