REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 3
BAVA BASRA 3-5 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of
love for Torah and those who study it.
(a) In the second Lashon, we translate 'Mechitzah' as a partition, adopting
the interpretation that we rejected in the first Lashon, concluding 'Hezek
Re'iyah Sh'meih Hezek'. How do we resolve the initial problem that we had
with this ('I Hachi, "she'Ratzu La'asos Mechitzah", she'Ratzu La'chatzos'
(b) And on what grounds do we refute the suggestion that Mechitzah should
mean a stone-wall, like the Beraisa 'Mechitzas ha'Kerem she'Nifretzah' (as
we concluded according to the first Lashon)?
(a) Since the Tana holds 'Hezek Re'iyah Sh'meih Hezek', why does the Tana
not obligate the partners to build a Mechitzah even if 'Lo Ratzu' (i.e. if
just one of them demands it)? How does Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan
establish our Mishnah to explain why the Tana confines the Halachah to
(b) But surely, we know already from the Mishnah later in the Perek
'Eimasai, bi'Zeman she'Ein Sheneihem Rotzin, Aval bi'Zeman she'Sheneihem
Rotzin, Afilu Pachos mi'Ka'an, Cholkin' that once they decide to divide such
a Chatzer, they are obligated to put up a Mechitzah? So why does the Tana
need to insert our Mishnah?
(c) Now however, that our Mishnah teaches us the obligation to put up a
proper Mechitzah, why does the Tana need to add the Mishnah later?
(a) Since our Mishnah is talking about a Chatzer which is normally too small
to divide, 'Ratzu' alone would be of no significance, because either of them
would be entitled to retract. Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan answers
What does this mean?
(b) What objection do we raise to that answer?
(c) We overrule this objection however, by establishing Rebbi Yochanan
'she'Kanu mi'Yado be'Ruchos'.
What does this mean? How does it resolve the
(d) Rav Ashi gives an alternative answer.
How does he establish our
Mishnah without the need to come on to 'she'Kanu mi'Yado'?
(a) How do we interpret ...
(b) Rabah B'rei de'Rava asked Rav Ashi how we know that the difference
between G'vil and Gazis is that the former is rough and the latter,
smoothened? Perhaps G'vil is two half-stones of two and a half Tefachim
each, and one Tefach in the middle for cement and Gazis one stone of five
Tefachim (like the difference between Kefisin and Leveinin) What did Rav
- ... G'vil?
- ... Gazis?
- ... Kefisin?
- ... Leveinin?
(c) Others cite Rav Acha B'rei de'Rav Ivya, who asked Rav Ashi the opposite,
to which Rav Ashi gave him the same reply.
What did Rav Acha ask Rav Ashi?
(a) Abaye extrapolates from the above interpretations that it is standard
practice to leave one Tefach in between two bricks or stones.
What are the
ramifications of this statement?
(b) This applies specifically to a wall that is built with cement
What will be the Din if someone is contracted to build a wall
using cement and grit?
(c) That is the opinion of the first Lashon. What does the second Lashon
(a) What was the Amah T'raksin?
(b) What kind of stones did Shlomoh use to build the first Beis-Hamikdash?
How tall was it?
(c) Based on Gazis in our Mishnah, what problem do we have with the
proportion between the height of the Beis-Hamikdash and the thickness of the
(d) How do we answer this Kashya?
(a) Rav and Shmuel (or Rebbi Yochanan and Rebbi Elazar) argue over the Pasuk
in Chagai "Gadol Yih'yeh Kavod ha'Bayis ha'Zeh ha'Acharon min ha'Rishon".
According to one of them, the Navi is referring to the size, according to
the other, to the years.
Answers to questions
Which opinion do we accept?
(b) How much longer did the second Beis-Hamikdash stand than the first?
(c) How tall was it?
(d) Given that the Amah T'raksin had to be one Amah thick in the second Beis
Hamikdash (just as it was in the first), and that they put up two curtains
(rather than a wall), because a six Tefachim wall would not be strong enough
for a wall a hundred Amos tall, why did they not build a wall of thirty
Amos, and put up two curtains for the remaining seventy?
(a) In the second Beis-Hamikdash, why could they not build as much wall as
possible at six Tefachim thick, and the rest as curtains?
(b) From where do we know that one may use ...
(c) We ask whether the Shiurim of three, four, five and six Tefachim in our
Mishnah include the lime, or exclude it.
- ... a wall?
- ... curtains?
What does Rav Nachman bar
(d) How do we counter Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak's proof?
(a) How do we reconcile what we just said with our Mishnah, which requires
each partner gives one and a half Tefachim to build a wall of Leveinin,
(from which it appears that the Tana does deal with half Shiurim)?
(b) The Mishnah in Eruvin gives the width of the beam that one places at the
entrance of a Mavoy, as sufficiently wide to hold an Ari'ach, which is half
What measurement (how many Tefachim) does the Tana go on to
(c) What do we try and prove from there?
(d) How do we reconcile that Mishnah with Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, who
concluded that all the measurements in our Mishnah speak with the cement?
(a) Rav Chisda forbids the demolishing of a Shul before another is standing
to replace it. Some say this is because we are afraid that one may be
prevented from building another one.
What do others say?
(b) What is the difference between the two answers? When will the first
reason apply but not the second?
(c) What did Mereimar and Mar Zutra (who had two Shuls, a low-ceilinged Shul
with fewer widows and thicker walls for the winter, and a taller, more airy
one for the summer) used to do in the summer and in the winter, to
circumvent the above problem (see Rabeinu Gershom)?
(a) What did Rav Ashi reply when Ravina asked him whether it would be
permitted to demolish the old Shul first, if ...
(b) And what did he reply when he pressed him further why we do not then
forbid demolishing an old Shul even if the new one was already built, due to
the possibility of the new Shul having to be sold, to obtain funds for
- ... they had already collected the money to build a new one?
- ... the bricks and the rafters were already piled up ready for construction?
(c) Under specific circumstances however, it is permitted to demolish an old
Shul before building a new one, like Rav Ashi.
Why did Rav Ashi demolish
the Shul in Masa Mechsaya although no new Shul existed?
(d) What did he do to ensure that he would not be lax in building the new
(a) The reason that Bava ben Buta may have instructed Hurdus (King Herod) to
demolish the Beis-Hamikdash (in spite of Rav Chisda's prohibition) may have
been due to the cracks that had appeared in the structure (as we just
explained). The alternative reason was based on a statement of Shmuel.
What did Shmuel say about a king's word?
(b) Who was Hurdus?
(c) What did he see and hear that caused him to rebel? What was the extent
of Hurdus rebellion?
(d) How did that young girl react to Hurdus actions? What did she ...
- ... do?
- ... say?
(a) What did Hurdus do with the young girl after her death?
Answers to questions
(b) According to those who say that he did not have relations with her, what
was the point of doing that?
(c) What made him kill all the Sanhedrin (see Tosfos)?
(d) Why did he keep Bava ben Buta alive? What did he do with him?