REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 89
BAVA BASRA 89 - dedicated on the occasion of the Shloshim of Reb Dovid Tuvia
ben Harav Yechiel Mechel Halevi (David Kramer), by the Lomdei Daf Ha'Yomi in
White Oak, Maryland (Jack Delman, Howie Feldman, Yitz Gedalowitz, Shlomo
Katz, Jay Levine, Rabbi Sanders, Kenneth Schor, Raanan Shames, and Sheldon
Meth). David was a founding member of the White Oak Daf Ha'Yomi, a frequent
Magid Shiur, and an integral part of its continuation for over 10 years.
David was also a pillar of the White Oak community for over 25 years. May
his memory serve as a blessing for all of Klal Yisrael!
(a) May one compress the contents of the measure when it is customary to
heap them or vice-versa, with the consent of the purchaser or the seller
(b) If we learn this from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Eifah Sheleimah ...
Yih'yeh Lach", what do we learn from the word "va'Tzedek"?
(c) How much would the seller need to deduct from the price, were he to be
permitted to compress the measure provided he deducted from the price?
(d) Following exactly the same pattern, what do we learn from the
continuation of the Pasuk ...
- ... "Even Sheleimah ... Yih'yeh"?
- ... " ... va'Tzedek"?
(a) What does Rav Yehudah mi'Sura learn from the Pasuk "Lo Yih'yeh Lecha ...
(b) What does the Beraisa Darshen from the Pasuk "Even Sheleimah va'Tzedek
*Yih'yeh Lach*"? To whom is the Torah speaking?
- ... *be'Veischa* ... Eifah va'Eifah, Gedolah u'Ketanah"?
- ... *be'Kischa" ... Even va'Aven, Gedolah u'Ketanah"?
(c) Why does the Tana not consider this necessary when it comes to price
control, in order to penalize those who raise their prices?
(d) What did the B'nei Nesi'ah nevertheless used to do?
(a) Why did a 'horn of flesh' grow on Karna's eye?
(b) Why did Shmuel choose specifically that?
(c) Did Karna have a source for his ruling?
(d) What does the Beraisa mean when it rules that one fulfills the request
of the purchaser to sell a Litra, half Litra or a quarter of a Litra?
(a) How does the Beraisa require the weighing of three-quarters of a Litra?
(b) And what does another Beraisa say about a purchaser who insists that the
seller weighs him ten Litras, a Litra a time?
(c) What do these two Beraisos have in common? Why not three times a quarter
of a Litra in the first Beraisa, and why not one Litra ten times in the
second, if that is what the purchaser wants?
(a) What does the Tana of the Beraisa mean when he gives the measurement of
the arm and the two strings of the scales with which one weighs metals, as
(b) What is the minumum length of the 'Nefesh' (the metal tube that runs
from the ceiling to the arm, through which the cord that holds the arm [the
(c) How far from the ground must the scales be?
(d) What is the reason for these two measurements?
(a) The scales of wool-merchants and glaziers must be at least two Tefachim
from the ceiling and two Tefachim from the ground.
Answers to questions
What is the Shiur of
the arm and the two strings?
(b) The Shiur of the arm and the strings combined of a storekeeper and of a
private person is six Tefachim. How close to the ceiling and to the floor
may they be?
(c) The scales of a silver and gold-smith must be at least three
finger-breadths from the ceiling and from the floor.
What does the Tana
say about the length of the arm and the two strings?
(a) What does Rebbi Mani bar Patish mean when he says (with regard to the
scales) 'Just as they said concerning the Isur, so too, did they say
(b) We query the need for his statement however, from a Mishnah in Keilim.
What does the Tana say there about the string by which the scales of a
store-keeper and a private person hangs from the ceiling?
(c) How do we reconcile Rebbi Mani with the Mishnah in Keilim?
(a) Why does the Tana forbid scales of tin, lead, Gistron or any other kind
of metal? What is Gistron?
(b) Out of which raw material may one make the scales, besides glass?
(c) Another Beraisa forbids forming a smoothening-rod out of a pumpkin or
out of metal.
Why not out of ...
- ... a pumpkin?
- ... metal?
(a) Why may the smoothening-rod not be formed in such a way that one side is
thick and the other, thin?
(b) Then what sort of rod should one use?
(c) What does the Tana of the Beraisa mean when he says that one should not
smoothen the heap ...
(d) Then how should one smoothen the heap?
- ... in one go? Why is that?
- ... little by little?
(a) Raban Yochanan ben Zakai was in a quandary whether to teach all these
Halachos or not.
Why should one perhaps ...
(b) What made him decide to teach them after all?
- ... not do so?
- ... nevertheless go ahead and teach them?
(a) The Pasuk in Kedoshim writes "Lo Sa'asu Avel ba'Mishpat, ba'Midah,
ba'Mishkal u'va'Mesurah". How do we know that "ba'Midah" refers to the
measuring of land and not of a measuring-vessel to measure liquids?
(b) What prohibition is the Torah coming to teach us ...
(c) Which measure is called 'Mesurah'?
- ... here?
- ... when it writes "ba'Mishkal", which means literally 'in the area of weights'?
- ... when it writes "ba'Mesurah" (which, as we already explained, refers to the measuring of liquids.
(d) What 'Kal va'Chomer' do we derive from 'Mesurah'? How little would the
loss be in a Mesurah?
(a) How many Lugin are there in ...
(b) The smallest measures in the list are Tomen and Uchla. Uchla will be
dealt with later.
- ... in a Hin?
- ... in a Kav (considering that there are three Kabin in a Hin)?
What fraction of a Lug is a Tomen (bearing in mind that
it is also equivalent to an eighth of a Kav)?
(a) To what extent does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav forbid keeping a short measure
in one's house?
(b) Rav Papa restricts the prohibition to two conditions, one of them that
it is not a place where the king's inspectors do not stamp the weights and
What is the other?
(c) On what grounds do we reject the second condition?
(d) May one keep a weight that weighs more than it ought to, in one's house?
(a) The current Beraisa lists the solid measures that one is permitted to
keep in one's house: 'Sa'ah, Tarkav, Chatzi Tarkav, Kav, Chatzi Kav, Rova,
Tomen, Uchla va'Chatzi Uchla'.
How many Kabin are there in a Sa'ah?
(b) Why does the Tana omit ...
(c) How do we know that the Tomen is an eighth of a Kav, and not of a Log?
- ... Chatzi Sa'ah?
- ... Chatzi Rova?
(d) How many egg-volumes constitute half a Tomen?
(a) The Tana gives an Uchla as a fifth of a Revi'a (Rova).
Answers to questions
What does this
mean? A quarter of what?
(b) How many egg-volumes does this constitute?
(c) How much more is a Chatzi Tomen than an Uchla?