REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 170
(a) The Beraisa discusses a case where Reuven counters Shimon's claim that
Reuven stole his field with a Sh'tar and a Chazakah. According to Rebbi, we
only contend with the Sh'tar.
What does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say?
(b) On what grounds do we reject the text in Raban Shimon ben Gamliel 'Af
(c) According to Rav Dimi, their Machlokes is based on the principle 'Osiyos
What does each Tana hold (see Rabeinu Gershom)?
(d) Can one acquire a field with a Sh'tar, according to Raban Shimon ben
(a) What did Rav Dimi reply when Abaye asked him whether his interpretation
did not clash with Rabah, in whose opinion Raban Shimon ben Gamliel holds
'Osiyos Niknos bi'Mesirah'?
(b) Why did Abaye not accept Rav Dimi's answer?
(c) So Abaye establishes the Machlokes when one of the witnesses turned out
to be a relative or Pasul. What is then the Machlokes? Why does Rebbi
nevertheless go by the Sh'tar?
(d) What will both Tana'im hold with regard to 'Osiyos ... '?
(a) We reject this however, on the basis of a statement by Rebbi Elazar (the
Tana) himself What did Rebbi Elazar say about a Sh'tar that is
'intrinsically a forgery'?
(b) So how does Rebbi Avina establish the Machlokes, so that they still
argue over Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Meir?
(c) Alternatively, they argue over a Sh'tar which the 'seller' admits to
having written, and the basis of their Machlokes is - whether the
'purchaser' subsequently needs to corroborate the Sh'tar (Rebbi) or not
(Raban Shimon ben Gamliel).
(d) What is the S'vara behind Raban Shimon ben Gamliel's ruling? Why does he
not apply the principle 'ha'Peh she'Asar Hu ha'Peh she'Hitir' (and believe
the 'seller' that although he wrote the Sh'tar, the sale did not take
(a) Rebbi holds in a Beraisa, that if a creditor and a debtor are holding
the Sh'tar Halva'ah, which the creditor claims he lost before the debtor had
paid, and the debtor claims that he lost after having paid, 'Yiskayem
What does this mean?
(b) What does Raban Shimon ben Gamliel say?
(c) What do we ask on Rebbi from 'Shenayim Ochzin be'Talis'?
(a) Rava Amar Rav Nachman therefore explains that had the Sh'tar been
verified, even Rebbi would agree that the creditor would claim half the
How does the Beraisa then speak? What is Rebbi's reason?
(b) How do we now resolve the discrepancy, seeing as Rebbi and Raban Shimon
ben Gamliel appear to have switched opinions?
(a) Alternatively, we establish the Machlokes in the latter Beraisa
What does this mean?
(b) And we support this with a case of Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef who lent Rebbi
What did Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha rule when the latter claimed to
have paid in front of P'loni u'Peloni u'Peloni?
(c) The defendant queried this however, from an established ruling.
do we rule in a case of 'ha'Malveh es Chavero be'Eidim ... '?
(a) In reply, Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha quoted *Rebbi Aba* Amar Rav Ada bar
Ahavah Amar Rav.
What did Rebbi Aba himself say in a case where the debtor
claims that he paid in the presence of P'loni u'P'loni u'Peloni?
(b) With whose opinion does this conform?
(c) Rebbi Aba objected to Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha's ruling from a statement by
Rav Gidal Amar Rav.
Like whom did he rule?
(a) What did Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha reply? With whose opinion did his ruling
Answers to questions
(b) Like whom do we ultimately rule?
(a) Our Mishnah discusses someone who paid part of his debt. What is the
What is the basis of Rebbi Yossi's opinion?
(b) Rebbi Yehudah holds 'Yachlif'.
What does that mean?
(c) What does Rebbi Yossi say?
(d) How does Rebbi Yossi counter Rebbi Yehudah's argument that it would not
be fair to expect the debtor to look after a receipt, to prevent it from
falling into the hands of the mice?
(a) Rav disagrees with both Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yossi.
Since when does
an Amora have the right to argue with Tana'im?
(b) What did Rav Nachman (or Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Aba) comment to Rav Huna
with regard to Rav, after quoting the Beraisa 'Eidim Mekar'in es ha'Sh'tar
ve'Kosvin Lo Sh'tar Acher mi'Z'man Rishon' (though this is not the actual
wording of the Beraisa as we shall see)?
(c) What did Rav Huna reply?
(a) What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav mean when he said 'Eidim Kosvin Afilu
Asarah Sh'taros al Sadeh Achas'? What is the point of so many Sh'taros?
Answers to questions
(b) To answer the apparent contradiction in Rav, Rav Yosef establishes Rav's
latter statement by a Sh'tar Matanah.
How does that answer the Kashya?
(c) How does Rabah establish Rav's latter statement?