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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) MISHNAH: CRUSHING SPICES AND SALT ON YOM TOV
(a) (Beis Shamai) Spices may be crushed in a wooden pestle
(not the usual stone), while salt must be crushed in
earthenware, using a wooden spoon as the hammer.
2) DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SALT AND SPICES
(b) (Beis Hillel) There is no change required for crushing
spices while salt requires a wooden pestle.
(a) Question: Why does crushing salt require a Shinui
(according to both opinions)?
3) TISNI AND KESISHAH
(b) Answer (R. Huna and R. Chisda): Either because one
should have anticipated the need for salt (which is
needed for any dish, unlike other spices) or because
the flavor of salt, unlike other spices, does not
deteriorate if it were crushed before YomTov.
(c) Question: When will the reason make a difference?
(d) Answer: If he knows what dish he will cook on YomTov
(then the first reason will require him to anticipate
that need while the second would not, since the spice
(e) Answer: The spice Morika which does not deteriorate
(like salt) but which he could not anticipate needing.
(f) (R. Yehudah citing Shmuel) Salt and spices (anything
which is crushed) may be crushed normally on YomTov.
(g) Question: But we learned in our Mishnah that even Beis
Hillel agrees that salt requires a Shinui!?
(h) Answer: Not if we follow R. Meir who learns that the
Machlokes only applies when salt is ground separate
from the other spices, whereas if they are ground
together, all agree that it is done normally.
1. (Beis Shamai) If ground separately, the salt must
be ground in earthenware, and then only a small
amount (enough for broiling meat).
(i) (R. Acha Bardela to his son) Even though I hold like
Shmuel, please make a small Shinui (tilt the pestle
from its upright position) when hammering.
2. (Beis Hillel) Any grinding is permitted (and even
without a Shinui).
3. Question: *Any* utensil, even a Muktzeh utensil!?
4. Answer: We meant any quantity, not any utensil.
(j) R. Sheshes was certain that the sound of pounding was
not coming from his home since he had instructed the
members of his household not to use stone.
(k) Question: Perhaps they tilted the pestle!?
(l) Answer: It would not give off this clear ring.
(m) Question: Perhaps the sound is coming from spices, not
salt (and it could still emerge from R. Sheshes' home)?
(n) Answer: Spices make a different sound when ground.
(a) (Beraisa) One may not prepare Tisni and one may not
grind wheat (Kesishah) in a Machteshes.
(b) Question: The implications of the two parts of that
statement seem to contradict one another (the first
implying that Tisni is a problem owing to the Tircha
involved while the second implies that any Kesishah is
(c) Answer: The Beraisa is only adding the reason for
prohibiting the preparation of Tisni (Kesishah).
(d) Question: Then the Beraisa should have sufficed with
the prohibition on Kesishah in a Machteshes!?
(e) Answer: We need both statements lest we permit
preparing Tisni in a small Machteshes.
(f) Question: But a Beraisa permits a small Machteshes!?
(g) Answer (Abaye): Our previous Beraisa also means to
prohibit only a large Machteshes (and the Beraisa is
prohibiting Tisni even in a small Machteshes, and other
spices in a large Machteshes).
(h) Answer (Rava): One Beraisa speaks in Bavel (where
Kesishah in a small Machteshes is permitted) and one
speaks in Eretz Yisrael (where the presence of Jewish
servants necessitated prohibiting all Kesishah).
4) MISHNAH: BORER ON YOMTOV
(i) R. Papi did not eat the wheat dish in the home of Mar
Shmuel on YomTov (presuming that they used a large
1. Question: Perhaps they used a small Machteshes?
2. Answer: It was too finely ground.
3. Question: Perhaps they ground it before YomTov?
4. Answer: Its color spoke to its being freshly
5. Alternate Answer: Mar Shmuel's home had unruly
(a) (Beis Shamai) One must remove the food from the refuse,
and consume it right away.
5) OCHEL FROM PESOLES UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES
(b) (Beis Hillel) One may separate normally even with the
help of a cloth in his lap, a Kinon and a Tamchui (but
he may not use a sifting utensil).
(c) (R. Gamliel) He may soak the lentils and discard the
debris which floats to the top.
(a) (R. Gamliel) Beis Hillel permits taking the refuse out
of the food when the food is of greater quantity than
the Pesoles, but if the Pesoles is the majority then he
must remove the Ochel and leave the Pesoles.
6) SOAKING THE LENTILS AND CAUSING SEPARATION
(b) Question: But if the Pesoles is the majority then the
whole mixture is Muktzeh!?
(c) Answer: R. Gamliel is speaking where there is more
Ochel than Pesoles but it is more work to remove the
Pesoles than the Ochel (in which case one should remove
the Ochel, even though it is the minority).
(a) Question: One Beraisa teaches that the Ochel rises to
the top of the water and the Pesoles sinks while our
Mishnah implies the opposite?
7) MISHNAH: GIVING GIFTS ON YOMTOV
(b) Answer: It depends on the type of Pesoles.
(a) (Beis Shamai) One may only give ready to eat food gifts
8) QUANTITY GIFTS
(b) (Beis Hillel) One may even send that which requires
extensive preparation (such as livestock and raw
(c) One may not send grain (given that Tochen is
(d) (R. Shimon) Even wheat is permitted (as one may be
Koshesh in a small Machteshes and cook the dish).
(a) (R. Yechiel) One may not send a gift in a public manner
such as with a line of carriers (which, the Beraisa
teaches, is at least three people).
9) MISHNAH: OTHER TYPES OF GIFTS
(b) Question (R. Ashi): What if each of the three are
carrying a different gift?
(c) Answer: Teiku.
(d) R. Shimon permits grain on account of their other
potential uses (what, barley, lentils each have uses).
(a) Garments, whether stitched or not stitched or even with
Shatnes, may be sent, so long as they have a YomTov
10) KELAIM GARMENTS
(b) One may not send a nailed sandal (which may not be worn
on YomTov), nor an unstitched shoe (which cannot yet be
(c) (R. Yehudah) An undied shoe may not be sent given that
a craftsman still needs to die it.
(d) As a rule, that which one may benefit from on YomTov
may be sent.
(a) Question: Of what use are Shatnes garments?
(b) Answer: They may be folded as a seat cushion.
(c) Question: But the Beraisa teaches that even though this
is permitted by the Torah, Chazal forbade it!?
(d) Answer: It is permitted if there is something
(e) Question: But R. Shimon b. Pazi citing R. Yehoshua b.
Levi citing R. Yosi b. Shaul citing Rebbi citing the
holy community of Yerushalayim taught that even ten
mattresses intervening would not permit one to sleep on
(f) Answer: We are speaking then of a Shatnes curtain.
(g) Question: But Ula taught (in regards to Tumah) that the
attendant sometimes warms himself by the curtains!?
(h) Answer: We are speaking of stiff garments which do not
warm the person (as taught by R. Huna b.R. Yehoshua
that one may sit on stiff garments of Shatnes)