REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Kama 3
BAVA KAMA 3 (10 Av) - dedicated by Mrs. G. Kornfeld (Rabbi Kornfeld's
mother) to the memory of her father, Reb Yisrael Shimon (Isi) ben Shlomo
ha'Levi Turkel. Reb Yisrael Turkel loved Torah and supported it with his
last breath. He passed away on 10 Av, 5760.
(a) Why do we require a Pasuk ("Meshalchei Regel ... ") to prove that
"ve'Shilach" refers to Regel. Seeing as Keren and Shen are already written,
what else could it possibly refer to?
(b) In that case, let the Torah write "ve'Shilach" to teach us 'Lo Mechalya
Karna', and we will know 'Mechalya Karna' from a 'Kal va'Chomer'?
(c) Having concluded that "ve'Shilach" refers to Regel, how do we know that
one is Chayav for Shen de'Lo Mechalya Karna?
(d) Now that ...
- ... Keren and Regel are already written, why do we need "u'Ka'asher Yeva'er ... " to prove that u'Bi'er refers to Shein? What else could it possibly refer to?
- ... "u'Bi'er" refers to Shen, how do we know that one is Chayav for 'Regel de'Azal Mimeila'?
(a) What can we learn from the Pasuk in Ki Savo "ve'Shen Beheimos *Ashalach*
(b) On what basis do we refute the suggestion that the Torah could not omit
"u'Bi'er" and just write "ve'Shilach" (which implies both Shen and Regel)
because then we would know either the one or the other, but not both?
(c) Then why *does* the Torah find it necessary to write "u'Bi'er"?
(a) What are the Toldos of ...
(b) On what grounds do we then refute the proposal that Rav Papa's
'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze Bahen' refers to the Toldos of ..
- ... Shen?
- ... Regel?
(c) So we turn to Bor. On what grounds do we reinstate the suggestion that
the Av of Bor refers to a pit ten Tefachim deep, and the Toldah, to one of
less, in spite of the fact that the Torah mentions neither the one nor the
- ... Shen?
- ... Regel?
(d) We conclude however, that both are Avos, one for killing and one for
damaging. This may be because "ve'ha'Meis Yih'yeh Lo" refers directly to a
pit of ten Tefachim for death, whilst at the same time implying one of nine
Why else, might both be Avos? Which other Pasuk appears to
incorporate a pit of less than ten Tefachim?
(a) So what *are* the Toldos of Bor?
Answers to questions
(b) From where do we know that Bor is Chayav even though it is Hefker?
(c) According to Sh'muel, 'Avno, Sakino u'Masa'o' falls under the heading of
Bor, even if the owner did not declare it Hefker.
What does Rav say?
(d) On what grounds do we now refute the proposal that Rav Papa's
'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze Bahen' refers to the Toldos of Bor?
(a) Having established that the Toldos of Shor are like Shor, and those of
Bor are like Bor, we turn to Mav'eh according to Rav.
What is Mav'eh,
according to Rav?
(b) On what basis do we reject the suggestion that the Av of Adam ha'Mazik
is Er (when he is awake) and the Toldah, Yashen (when he is asleep), and
that this is what Rav Papa's 'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze Bahen' refers to
(see Tosfos DH 'Toldah')?
(c) So what other Toldos of Adam are there?
(d) And on what grounds do we refute the proposal that Rav Papa's
'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze Bahen' refers to these latter Toldos?
(a) So we turn to Eish to try and establish 'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze
Bahen' of Rav Papa.
Seeing as he pays for only half the damage (like Keren Tam), in what respect
does Tzeroros have the Din of Regel, according to ...
What are the Toldos of Eish?
(b) On what grounds do we refute that proposal too?
(c) So we finally establish Rav Papa's statement 'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze
Bahen' by Regel.
Which aspect of Regel is he referring to? How does the
Toldah differ from the Av?
(d) What makes it a Toldah of Regel factually?
- ... Rav Papa?
- ... Rava (who is uncertain whether Tzeroros pays from the body of the Mazik or from his own pocket)?
(a) According to Rav, 'Mav'eh' means Adam, based initially on the Pasuk in
Yeshayah "Amar Shomer Asa Boker ve'Gam Laylah, Im Tiv'ayun Be'ayu Shuvu
If "Shomer" in that Pasuk refers to Hashem, "Boker" to the
redemption for the Tzadikim and "Laylah", to darkness for the Resha'im, what
is the meaning of ...
(b) How does Sh'muel, based on Rav Yosef's translation of the Pasuk in
Ovadyah "Eich Nechpesu Eisav, Niv'u Matzpunav", interpret 'Mav'eh'?
- ... "Im Tiv'ayun Be'ayu"?
- ... "Shuvu Eisayu"?
(c) How does Rav Yosef translate "Niv'u Matzpunav"?
(a) Rav declines to learn like Sh'muel, because if Mav'eh means Shen, then
the Tana should have called it 'Niveh' (is revealed), and not 'Mav'eh'
(implying that it reveals others).
Answers to questions
Why does Sh'muel decline to learn like
Rav? What should the Tana have called it according to Rav?
(b) Seeing as neither opinion fits grammatically, what *is* Rav's reason for
explaining Mav'eh to mean Adam?
(c) And how does Sh'muel interpret ...
- ... 'Shor', according to Rav Yehudah?
- ... 'Mav'eh'?