REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Kama 72
(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'ha'Shochet Chulin ba'Azarah, Meshalem Arba'ah
How does Rav Chavivi from Chuzna'a attempt to prove from
here that the actual Shechitah is confined to the last part of the Shechitah
(which kills the animal)?
(b) Rav Huna B'rei de'Rava refutes this proof on the grounds that even
assuming that 'Yeshnah li'Shechitah mi'Techilah ve'Ad Sof' (the Shechitah
incorporates the entire act), the Ganav would be Chayav Daled ve'Hey for the
initial cut alone.
On what grounds does Rav Ashi reject this answer?
(c) So how does Rav Gamda in the name of Rava reconcile our Mishnah with the
opinion that holds 'Yeshnah li'Shechitah mi'Techilah ve'Ad Sof'? What does
'Sof' really mean in this context?
(a) Others cite Rav Gamada in the name of Rava in connection with the
following Machlokes. 'Resh Lakish Amar Rebbi Levi Saba, Einah li'Shechitah
Answers to questions
What does Rebbi Yochanan say?
(b) How does Rav Rav Chavivi from Chuzna'a attempt to prove from here that
Rebbi Yochanan holds 'Chulin she'Nishchatah ba'Azarah cannot be d'Oraysa?
(c) How does Rav Acha B'rei de'Rava try to answer this Kashya?
(d) Rav Ashi raises the same objection as he raised in the first Lashon
("u'Tevacho" 'Kulei be'Isura'). How does Rav Gamda in the name of Rava
reconcile our Mishnah with Rebbi Yochanan?
(a) How much do two witnesses have to pay if they testify that someone stole
a sheep or a cow and Shechted or sold it, should they both become Zomemin?
What will be the Din in the previous case, if, after ...
(b) If two witnesses testify that someone stole the animal, and two other
witnesses, that he Shechted or sold it, how much do each pair pay if they
both become Zomemin?
(c) And what will be the Din in the latter case ...
(d) Why in the case where one of the second pair become Zomemin, do they not
pay Daled ve'Hey?
- ... if only the second pair become Zomemin?
- ... if one of the second pair become Zomemin?
- ... if one of the first pair become Zomemin?
- ... one of the first pair becomes a Zomem, the second pair of witnesses become Zomemin too.
- ... both of the witnesses of the first pair became Zomemin, the second pair of witnesses become Zomemin, too?
(a) According to Abaye, an Eid Zomem becomes Pasul retroactively.
the ramifications of this ruling?
(b) How does Abaye learn this from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "Al Ta'sshes
(c) What is Rava reason for saying that he is only Pasul from the time that
he becomes a Zomem?
(d) What makes Eid Zomem a Chidush?
(a) In the second Lashon, Rava agrees with Abaye in principle.
Answers to questions
did the Rabbanan validate all his testimonies up to the time that he became
an Eid Zomem?
(b) One difference between the two Leshonos will be in a case where each of
the two witnesses was declared a Zomem by two witnesses.
How will that fit
with the two Leshonos of Rava?
(c) What is the second difference between the two Leshonos?
(d) Rebbi Yirmiyah mi'Difti rules like Rava, Rav Ashi, like Abaye.