REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Metzia 11
BAVA METZIA 11-17 - This study material has been produced with the help of
the Israeli ministry of religious affairs.
(a) According to the Tana of our Mishnah, if someone sees people running
after a deer or fledglings, and, as they enter his field, he declares
'Zachsah Li Sadi', under which circumstances will he acquire them and under
which, will he not?
(b) What is the reason for this distinction?
(c) What statement does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina make with regard to
(d) In that case, why does Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel require the owner of the
field to be standing beside his field, before he will acquire the deer or
(a) The Beraisa, discussing the case of an owner who declares in town that
the sheaves which he knows his workers forgot in the field should not be
Shikchah, states 'Yachol Lo Yehei Shikchah, Talmud Lomar "ve'Shachachta Omer
ba'Sadeh", 'be'Sadeh ve'Shachachta, ve'Lo Ba'Ir'.
What is strange about
(b) How do we resolve this apparent contradiction? When is Zachur
ve'li'Besof Shachu'ach considered Shikchah, and when is it not? What does
'Zachur ve'li'Besof Shachu'ach' mean?
(c) What do we prove from this distinction? Why should Shikchas ha'Ir of the
owner be any worse than Shikchas ha'Sadeh?
(d) After changing the text to ('Yachol Yehei Shikchah' - see Tosfos DH
'Dilma') we ask that perhaps what the Beraisa means is that once the owner
reaches town, the Din of Shikchah simply does not apply.
How do we refute
this suggestion? What do we learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Lo Sashuv
(a) Seeing as we need the Pasuk "Lo Sashuv Le'kachto" for a La'av, how can
we also use it to include Shikchas ha'Ir?
Answers to questions
(b) We persist however, in discarding this Pasuk, citing a Mishnah in Pe'ah.
What does the Tana there learn from "Lo Sashuv Le'kachto"?
(c) How does Rav Ashi finally solve our problem? If we do not learn Shikchas
ha'Ir from "Lo Sashuv Le'kachto", from where do we learn it?
(a) Ula and Rabah bar bar Chanah too, agree with Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel and
require the owner to stand beside his unguarded field in order to acquire.
Rebbi Aba queries Ula from a Beraisa, which relates an episode that occurred
whilst Raban Gamliel was traveling with the elders in a boat.
concerning Ma'asros, was Raban Gamliel faced with?
(b) It seems that he had already separated Terumah Gedolah, and he decided
to give his Ma'aser Rishon to Rebbi Yehoshua.
How do we know that Rebbi
Yehoshua was a Levi? Was he a singer or a gatekeeper?
(c) Why did he choose to give his Ma'aser Ani to Rebbi Akiva?
(d) Why was he taking Ma'aser Ani and not Ma'aser Sheini?
(a) Bearing in mind that the produce was not in front of them, how was Raban
Gamliel Makneh the respective Ma'asros to the two men?
(b) Ho did Rebbi Aba query Ula from this Beraisa?
(c) Was Ula impressed with his Kashya?
(d) When Rebbi Aba arrived in Sura, they explained to him why.
of Kinyan had Raban Gamliel used, according to Ula? What advantage does that
Kinyan have over Kinyan Chatzer?
(a) Although Rebbi Zeira accepted this explanation, Rava agreed with Rebbi
Aba, who did not.
On what grounds did he reject it?
(b) He based this on the fact that Raban Gamliel did not use Kinyan Sudar
(which follows Kinyan Chatzer in this regard).
What advantage would Kinyan
Sudar have had over Kinyan Agav?
(c) So what has Rava proved with this?
(d) But Rava (and Rebbi Aba) is wrong.
What basic difference exists
between Kinyan Agav and Kinyan Sudar (based on the fact that the Torah
writes (with regard to Matnos Kehunah) "ve'Nasata la'Levi ... "?
(a) According to Rav Papa, the Tana'im may well have acquired the Ma'asros
with Kinyan Chatzer, in spite of Ula and the other Amora'im, who require the
owner to stand beside the property.
Why would that not have been necessary
in this case?
(b) We prove this distinction from Rebbi Aba bar Kahana, who supported Rebbi
Yirmiyah's distinction between Hefker and a gift. This is based on a
statement by Rebbi Yirmiyah Amar Rebbi Yochanan.
What did Rebbi Yochanan
state about the case in our Mishnah, when the owner of the field spied
people chasing a deer or fledglings which entered his field, and which the
Tana rules, he is Koneh?
(c) What She'eilah did Rebbi Yirmiyah then pose to Rebbi Yochanan?
(d) And what does Rebbi Aba bar Kahana conclude?
(a) Rav Shimi asked Rav Papa from Get, which the woman receives from her
husband, yet Ula requires her to be standing next to her field when he
throws the Get into it.
What Rav Papa reply?
(b) On what grounds does Rav Sheishes Brei de'Rav Idi refute Rav Papa's
(a) Rav Ashi too, bases the difference between Get and Matanah on the fact
that Get is 'Ba'al Korchah', but from a totally different perspective.
Answers to questions
What does he first of all point out with regard to Kinyan Chatzer, which we
learn from Yad, as we explained earlier?
(b) How will that determine the fact that ...
(c) How can we apply 'Anan Sahadi', and assume that a person wants his field
to acquire a Matanah on his behalf, in view of the Pasuk in Mishlei "Sonei
- ... by Get the women must be standing beside his field?
- ... by Matanah, this is not necessary?
(d) Why will the previous S'vara by Matanah not apply to when one acquires
an article from Hefker?