REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Metzia 44
(a) We just learned that, according to Beis Hillel, a Shomer does not become
a Shole'ach Yad with Machshavah alone from "Im Lo Shalach Yado bi'Meleches
What do Beis Shamai learn from "Al Kol *D'var* Pesha"
(Mishpatim, in connection with the Chiyuv of a Shomer)?
(b) What do Beis Hillel learn from "Al Kol *D'var* Pesha"?
(c) Rabah confines the Din of 'Hitah es ha'Chavis' to where the barrel
subsequently broke be'Ones. But in the event that the wine turned sour, he
maintains, the Shomer must pay for the entire barrel of wine.
Why is that?
(a) How does Shmuel interpret our Mishnah '*Higbihah ve'Natal Heimenu
Revi'is* ve'Nishberah, Meshalem D'mei Kulah'?
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(b) Why is this not a proof that Shmuel holds 'Shelichus Yad Einah Tzerichah
(c) Based on Rabah's Din, Rav Ashi asks what the Din will be if the Shomer
picks up the purse he is looking after, intending to take a Dinar.
might he be considered a Shole'ach Yad, even though a Dinar does not need
the purse like wine needs the barrel?
(d) What is the outcome of the She'eilah?
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(a) What does the Tana of our Mishnah mean when he says that gold acquires
silver, but not vice-versa?
(b) What is the reason for this distinction?
(c) Which is considered the Metaltelin (and acquires) between ...
- ... copper P'rutos and a silver coin?
- ... a good coin and a bad one? What does a bad coin mean in this context?
- ... a minted coin and uncoined metal?
(a) 'Kol ha'Metaltelin Konin Zeh es Zeh'.
In which two ways can Metaltelin
(b) What does 'Kol' come to include?
(c) Even though a coin does not acquire Metaltelin, the one who retracts
receives a 'Mi she'Para'. What is a 'Mi she'Para'?
(d) Rebbi Shimon Omer 'Kol she'ha'Kesef be'Yado, Yado Al ha'Elyonah'.
which point does he argue with the Rabbanan?
(a) When Rebbi taught Rebbi Shimon his son 'ha'Zahav Koneh es ha'Kesef',
what did Rebbi Shimon remind his father?
Answers to questions
(b) We have already learned why gold acquires silver.
But why did Rebbi
initially think the opposite? Why might gold be the currency, and silver the
(a) How does Rav Ashi prove (from the Seifa 'ha'Nechoshes Koneh es
ha'Kesef') that what Rebbi said in his younger years is the version that he
must have heard from Rebbi Meir (the presumed author of a S'tam Mishnah)?
(b) How do we refute Rav Ashi's proof? Why would Rebbi Meir need to insert
'ha'Nechoshes Koneh es ha'Kesef' even if silver was considered currency
(c) Then why *is* copper considered Metaltelin against silver?
(d) Who else (do we initially think) holds that gold is considered currency
(a) Rav borrowed gold coins from Rebbi Chiya's daughter (his cousin). Note,
that throughout the Sugya, 'Dinrim' refers to gold coins, although this is
not the case in most other places in Shas.
Why did he come before Rebbi
Chiya after their value rose? What was the problem?
(b) Rebbi Chiya ruled that Rav should return the loan in the same
denomination as he borrowed it.
What do we try to prove from there? What
would be the problem if gold coins were considered fruit?
(c) We answer that Rav had other gold coins at the time.
Why would that
make any difference?
(d) To what do we compare a case of Sa'ah be'Sa'ah where the borrower had
fruit at the time that he borrowed it?
(a) The Tana of the Beraisa gives the value of a P'rutah as an eighth of an
Italian Isar, an Italian Isar as one twenty-fourth of a silver Dinar, and a
silver Dinar as one twenty-fifth of a golden Dinar.
What are the
ramifications of the fact that ...
(b) What do we prove from here?
- ... a P'rutah is an eighth of an Italian Isar?
- ... an Italian Isar is one twenty-fourth of a silver Dinar?
- ... a silver Dinar is one twenty-fifth of a golden Dinar?
(c) Bearing in mind that the Shiur for Pidyon ha'Ben is twenty Shekalim (the
equivalent of four Dinrim, bearing in mind that the Shekel is really a Sela
[double the amount of a regular Shekel]), how much must the father give the
Kohen for Pidyon ha'Ben in terms of a golden Dinar?
(d) That being the case, how much change would the Kohen have to give the
father, if the latter gave him a golden Dinar, assuming a golden Dinar could
- ... only twenty silver Dinrim (see Maharshal and Maharam)?
- ... as much as thirty silver Dinrim?
(a) In the Mishnah in Ma'aser-Sheini, Beis Shamai forbid converting silver
Sela'im into golden Dinrim.
Why would one want to do that?
(b) What do Beis Hillel say?
(c) Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish discuss the Machlokes. According to one
of them, it is confined to converting Sela'im on to Dinrim.
Why will even
Beis Shamai agree that one may convert the Ma'aser Sheini fruit itself on to
(a) How can Beis Shamai consider gold coins as currency, when a moment ago,
they considered it to be fruit?
(b) How does he (Rebbi Yochanan or Resh Lakish) prove this from silver
according to Beis Hillel?
(a) According to the other opinion, they even argue over converting the
fruit itself (which Beis Shamai forbids, because they always consider gold
to be fruit).
Answers to questions
What problem do we have with that?
(b) How do we answer the Kashya? Why does the Tana find it necessary to
present the case of converting silver coins onto gold ones?