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CHAGIGAH 8 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of love
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1) WITH WHAT TYPE OF KORBAN MAY ONE FULFILL THE OBLIGATION OF SIMCHAH
3. Question: Why does Beis Hillel say that the Chagigah of
the first day of Pesach may be brought from Ma'aser -- it
is an obligatory Korban, and all obligatory Korbanos must
be brought from Chulin!?
4. Answer: Beis Hillel is referring to a case of "Tofel" --
adding Ma'aser to one's Chulin in order to have more meat
(Beis Hillel permits "Tofel," while Beis Shamai maintains
that the entire Korban must come from Chulin).
(i) (Chizkiyah) One may combine an *animal* of Ma'aser
with an *animal* of Chulin (to serve as the Korban
Chagigah so that a large family has more meat to
eat), but not money of Ma'aser with money of Chulin
(to bring one large animal).
(ii) (R. Yochanan) One may combine *money* of Ma'aser with
*money* of Chulin (to bring one large animal), but
not an animal of Ma'aser with an animal of Chulin.
(iii) There are Beraisos which support both opinions.
(a) "You shall rejoice in your festival" (Devarim 16:14) teaches
that one fulfills the Mitzvah of Simchah with all types of
1. This includes the meat of Korbanos Nedarim, Nedavos, and
Ma'aser Behemah for a Yisrael.
(b) Question: Perhaps this also includes birds and flour
2. For a Kohen, this also includes the meat of a Chatas,
Asham, Bechor, and the Chazeh and Shok.
(c) Answer: The verse emphasizes, "You shall rejoice in your
festival (b'Chagecha)," meaning that your Simchah shall come
from whatever animal the Chagigah comes from, which excludes
birds and flour.
(d) (R. Ashi) The verse says, "You shall rejoice" -- the flesh of
birds and flour do not bring a person to rejoice (while the
meat of animals does).
2) MISHNAH: THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS ONE BRINGS DEPENDS ON HIS PERSONAL
(e) Question: What does R. Ashi do with the phrase, "[You shall
rejoice] *in your festival*?"
(f) Answer: This teaches that during the festival, one may not
marry, because the verse says that one must rejoice "in your
festival" and not in your wife.
(a) One who has many people to feed (in his family), but little
property, should bring many Shelamim and few Olos.
3) BRINGING LOTS OF ANIMALS AS KORBANOS
(b) One who has few people to feed, but lots of property, should
bring many Olos and few Shelamim.
(c) One who has few people to feed and little property, for such
a person the minimum values of one Me'ah's worth (of Olos)
and two Me'ah's worth (of Shelamim) apply.
(d) One who has many people to feed and lots of property, for such
a person the verse, "every man according to what he can give,
according to the blessing that Hashem gave you" (Devarim 16:17)
(a) Question: How can one who many people to feed, but has little
property, bring many Shelamim?
4) WHAT TO DO IF ONE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO BRING ALL OF HIS
KORBANOS ON THE FIRST DAY
(b) Answer: He is "Tofel" -- he combines Ma'aser with his Chulin
to bring more animals.
1. (R. Chisda) He combines Ma'aser money with Chulin money to
bring one big animal (like R. Yochanan on 8a).
2. (R. Sheshes) He may *even* combine Ma'aser animals with
Chulin animals to bring many animals (a third opinion, not
like Chizkiyah nor R. Yochanan on 8a).
(a) (Reish Lakish) One who separated ten animals as his Korban
Chagigah, and only had time to bring five on the first day
of Yom Tov, may bring the remaining five on the second day.
(b) (R. Yochanan) Since the day ended, he may no longer bring the
(c) (R. Aba) Reish Lakish and R. Yochanan are not arguing.
1. Reish Lakish is referring to when the person specified
that he separated all ten animals to be brought on the
2. R. Yochanan is referring to when the person did not
specify that the animals were all meant to be brought on
the first day.
(i) Furthermore, there was time left to bring them on
the first day.
(ii) And he had family members to eat them as well.
(iii) The fact that he did not bring them shows that he
intended all along to bring them on the second day
(and thus there is a problem of Bal Tosif).