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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chagigah 8
CHAGIGAH 8 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of love
for Torah and those who study it.
(a) In spite of the principle 'Kol Davar she'be'Chovah Eino Ba'ah Ela min
ha'Chulin', Beis Hillel permit the Chagigah of the first day of Pesach to be
brought from Ma'aser money - provided it only comes as a Tefeilah (to add to
the Chulin that he is already bringing).
(b) According to Chizkiyah, Tefeilah is only permitted by adding an animal
of Ma'aser to an animal of Chulin - according to Rebbi Yochanan, it is only
permitted if he adds Ma'aser money to Chulin money (with which he purchases
a larger animal for his Chagigah).
(c) The logic behind the opinion of ...
1. ... Chizkiyah is that, if anything, Chazal would have rather permitted
bringing a second animal - seeing as he has already fulfilled his
obligation with Chulin money?
2. ... Rebbi Yochanan is that Chazal would rather have permitted adding
Ma'aser money to Chulin money and buying a larger animal - because then, he
will be eating what he purchased with Chulin money with every mouthful.
(a) The Beraisa in support of Rebbi Yochanan quotes the Pasuk (with regard
to Shavu'os) "Misas ... Ka'asher Yevarech'cha Hashem Elokecha". The Tana
learns from ...
1. ... "Misas" - that the Chagigah (and every obligatory Korban) can only be
brought from Chulin (as will be explained later).
(b) The Beraisa in support of Chizkiyah quotes Beis Shamai, who say that on
the first day, one must fulfill the Mitzvah of Chagigah from Chulin, and
from then on, even from Ma'aser. Beis Hillel say - the first eating (which
we currently think means the first animal) must be from Chulin; from then
on, even from Ma'aser.
2. ... "Ka'asher Yevarech'cha Hashem Elokecha" - that if one so wishes, he
may add Ma'aser money to Chulin money.
(c) The Tana adds that on the subsequent days of Pesach, one may also
fulfill the Mitzvah (through Tefeilah) with Ma'ser Beheimah, though not on
the first day of Yom-Tov - because separating Ma'aser Beheimah entails
marking the Ma'aser animals with red paint, which is forbidden on Yom-Tov
(see Tosfos DH 'Mishum').
(d) He learns from the Pasuk in Esther "va'Yasem ha'Melech Achashveirosh Mas
... " - that "Misas" implies Chulin.
(a) The Tana of another Beraisa learns from the (superfluous - see Tosfos DH
've'Samachta') Pasuk ...
1. ... "*ve'Samachta* be'Chagecha" - to include all kinds of Semachos (i.e.
any meat, even if it was not Shechted specifically as a Shalmei Simchah).
(b) Rav Ashi learns even the second Derashah from "ve'Samachta" - because,
in his opinion, a person only feels Simchah when he eats the meat of
2. ... "ve'Samachta *be'Chagecha*" - that one can only fulfill one's
obligation with the meat of animals (like the Chagigah - where the Torah
writes "Cheilev Chagi" as we explained above), but not with that of birds or
(c) Rav Ashi Darshens "be'Chagecha" like Rav Daniel bar Ketina - who
Darshens "be'Chagecha": 've'Lo be'Ishtecha" (that one may not get married
(a) The proportion of Shelamim to Olos is determined by the size of one's
family and one's means. If he has ...
1. ... a large family and not much money - he brings many Shelamim but only
a few Olos.
2. ... a lot of money and a small family - many Olos but only a few
1. Chazal specify one or two silver Ma'ah - when someone has a small family
and not much money.
2. The Torah writes in Re'ei "Ish ke'Matnas Yado ke'Virkas Hashem Elokecha
Asher Nasan Lach" - when he has a large family and a lot of money.
(a) The Tana obligates someone who has a large family and not much money to
bring a lot of Shelamim - by means of Tefeilah (adding Ma'aser money to the
little Chulin money that he has, and purchasing a large bull.
(b) Rav Sheishes says 'Toflin Beheimah li'Beheimah'. If he was coming to
preclude the possibility of being Tofel Ma'aser money to Chulin money - then
he should have said 'Ein Toflin Ma'os le'Ma'os'.
(c) The problem with saying that he really means '*Af* Toflin Beheimah
li'Beheimah' - is that that concurs neither with the opinion of Rebbi
Yochanan, nor with that of Chizkiyah.
(d) We conclude that, according to Rav Sheishes, the Beraisos (quoted above,
one as a support for Rebbi Yochanan, the other, for Chizkiyah) do not
argue - meaning that the Beraisa which permits Tefeilah Beheimah to Beheimah
concurs with the Beraisa which permits Ma'os to Ma'os (but not vice-versa).
In effect then, Rav Sheishes rules like the Beraisa which permits Beheimah
li'Beheimah (as well as Ma'os le'Ma'os), which is a third opinion (neither
like Rebbi Yochanan nor like Chizkiyah).
(a) Ula quoting Resh Lakish maintains that someone who designated ten
animals for his Chagigah, of which he brought five on the first day of
Yom-Tov, must bring the remaining five on the second day. Rebbi Yochanan
forbids it - because of 'Bal Tosif'.
(b) Rebbi Aba says that Resh Lakish and Rebbi Yochanan do not actually
argue - because Rebbi Aba speaks when he initially stipulated that he would
bring all ten animals, whereas Rebbi Yochanan speaks when he designated them
S'tam, without saying anything.
(c) If he failed to bring the remaining five animals due to a lack of time,
then, even in a case of S'tam, he will be permitted to bring the remaining
five on the second day - and the same will apply if he did not bring them
because of a lack of family and friends to eat them. In fact, it is only
forbidden to being the rest if he designated the animals S'tam, brought
five, and then, despite the fact that there was still time to bring the
rest, and that there were people to eat more, he desisted from bringing the
(d) We prove this from another (contradictory) statement made by Ravin
quoting Rebbi Yochanan - who said that someone who designated ten animals
for his Chagigah, of which he brought five on the first day of Yom-Tov,
brings the remaining five on the next day (Clearly then, he agrees with Resh
Lakish in a case when the owner specifically stipulated ten animals).
(a) Rav Sh'man bar Aba quoting Rebbi Yochanan says 'Lo Shanu Ela she'Lo
Gamar, Aval Gamar, Chozer u'Makriv'. 'Gamar' cannot possibly mean that he
has finished all the animals - because if so, what will he continue to
(b) In fact - 'Gamar' means that the day terminated.