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Chulin 2

CHULIN 2 - The first Daf of Chulin has been sponsored by Dr. and Mrs. Shalom Kelman of Baltimore, Maryland, USA. May Hashem bless them with years filled with Torah and Nachas!



(a) (Mishnah): All (may) slaughter, and the slaughter is Kosher, except for a deaf person, lunatic or minor, lest they slaughter it improperly;
(b) Any of them that slaughtered while others looked on, the slaughter is Kosher.
(c) (Gemara) Question: 'All (may) slaughter' - this connotes, l'Chatchilah; 'and the slaughter is Kosher' - this connotes, b'Di'avad!
1. Question #1 (Rav Acha brei d'Rava): Does the language 'All' always connote l'Chatchilah?
i. (Mishnah): All make Temurah (declare a Chulin animal to be in place of a sacrifice), both men and women.
ii. This is not l'Chatchilah - "He will not switch it"
2. Answer (Rav Ashi): There, the Mishnah clarifies itself - 'Not that it is permitted to make Temurah, but that if one did, the Chulin animal becomes Hekdesh, and the person gets 40 lashes'.
3. Question #2 (Rav Acha brei d'Rava - Mishnah): All (may) pledge a person's Erech (a value based on his age and gender) to Hekdesh, and others (may) pledge them, all pledge a person's value (as a slave) to Hekdesh, and other are pledge them.
i. This is not l'Chatchilah - "If you will refrain from vowing, you will not bear sin"
ii. (Beraisa - R. Meir): "It is better that you should not vow, than to vow and not fulfill"? - better than either (vowing and not fulfilling, or vowing and fulfilling) is not to vow at all;
iii. R. Yehudah says, the best is to vow and fulfill.
iv. Even R. Yehudah only allows declaring an animal Hekdesh - but not to obligate oneself (to bring an animal - nor to pledge to Hekdesh, for the same concern, lest he be unable to fulfill)!

4. Counter-question #1 (Rav Ashi): Can you say that whenever the Mishnah says 'All', it is b'Di'avad?
i. (Mishnah): 'All are obligated in the Mitzvah of Sukah';
ii. (Mishnah): 'All are obligated in the Mitzvah of Tzitzis'.
5. Answer (Rav Acha): I agree, when it says 'All are obligated', it is l'Chatchilah - but otherwise, 'all' connotes b'Di'avad.
6. Counter-question #2 (Rav Ashi - Mishnah): 'All press on the neck of their sacrifice, both men and women'.
i. This is l'Chatchilah - "He will press his hand, and the sacrifice will be acceptable"
7. Answer (Rav Acha): I agree, the language 'All' may be l'Chatchilah - but it can also be b'Di'avad.
i. My question was - why assume that in our Mishnah, it means l'Chatchilah, to ask a question - perhaps it means b'Di'avad, and there is no difficulty!
8. Answer (to Question #2 - Rav Ashi): The Mishnah continues; 'and the slaughter is Kosher' - b'Di'avad- if 'all slaughter' also means b'Di'avad, why does the Mishnah use a second language of b'Di'avad?
(a) Answer #1 (to Question 1:c - Rabah bar Ula): The Mishnah teaches: 'All may slaughter' - even a Tamei person may slaughter Chulin ...
1. Interjection: This is obvious!
2. Answer: He may slaughter Chulin Al Taharas Kodesh (treated as Kodshim) - Rabah bar Ula holds, Chulin Al Taharas Kodesh has the law of Kodshim.
i. He uses a long knife, so he should not touch the animal (after the slaughter, when it is susceptible to Tum'ah).
(b) (Continuation of Rabah bar Ula's answer): A Tamei person should not slaughter Kodshim, lest he touch the animal; if he slaughtered, and is sure that he did not touch, 'the slaughter is Kosher';
1. 'Except for a deaf person, lunatic or minor' - if they slaughtered even a Chulin animal, it is forbidden, lest they pause during the slaughter, press (the knife, instead of cutting), or do Chaladah (slaughter when the knife is covered).
(c) Question: '*Any of them* that slaughtered while others looked on, the slaughter is Kosher' - to whom does this refer?
1. Suggestion: If it refers to a deaf person, lunatic or minor - they were just mentioned, the Mishnah should have said 'If they', not 'Any of them'!
(d) Answer #1: Rather, it refers to a Tamei person that slaughtered a Chulin animal.
1. Objection: But the beginning of the Mishnah permits that l'Chatchilah!
(e) Answer #2: Rather, it refers to a Tamei person that slaughtered Kodshim.
(f) Question: Why must others look on - we said that it suffices that he is sure that he did not touch!
(g) Answer: The case is, he is not here to ask him whether he touched.
(h) Question: But a different Mishnah teaches that if a Tamei person slaughtered Kodshim, it is Kosher!
1. (Mishnah): If a Pasul (anyone disqualified from Avodah) slaughtered a Korban, it is Kosher, since slaughter may be done by a Zar (non-Kohen), woman, slave, or Tamei person;
i. This applies even to Kodshei Kodoshim, on condition that (if he is Tamei) he did not touch the animal.
(i) Answer #1: Primarily, our Mishnah teaches this law; that Mishnah teaches all Pesulim for Avodah, so it repeated the law of a Tamei that slaughtered a Korban.
(j) Answer #2: Primarily, that Mishnah teaches this law; our Mishnah, since it teaches about a Tamei that slaughters Chulin, also teaches about when he slaughters Kodshim.
(k) Question: What kind of Tamei person can slaughter Kodshim?
1. Suggestion: If he is Tamei Mes (from a corpse) - any vessel he touches becomes Tamei, it makes the animal Tamei!
(l) Answer #1: Rather, he became Tamei through a rodent (so he does not Metamei vessels).
(m) Answer #2: Really, he is Tamei Mes - he slaughtered with a sharp reed (it is not a vessel, it cannot become Tamei).
1. (Beraisa): One may slaughter with anything - with a rock, or glass, or a reed.
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