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Previous daf Chulin 22
1) DIFFERENCES BETWEEN "OLAS HA'OF" AND "CHATAS HA'OF"
(a) (Continuation of Beraisa - R. Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon):
"Like the law" refers to the law of a Chatas ha'Of.
2) "OLAS HA'OF" AND "CHATAS HA'OF"
1. Just like he holds the head and body of a Chatas and
sprinkles blood, he does the same with an Olah.
(b) Question: Since Chachamim (the first Tana, bottom of 21A)
learn from "U'Malak...v'Hiktir" that the head and body
of Olas ha'Of are separated, why do they need "And he
will offer *it*" (to teach that it is unlike Chatas
i. Question: What does that mean?
2. Suggestion: Just like in Chatas ha'Of they are
attached by a full Siman, also in Olas ha'Of!
ii. Answer: Just like regarding Chatas ha'Of, when
he holds the head, he sprinkles blood with the
body (which is attached), also regarding Olas
3. Rejection: "He will offer *it*" (Olas ha'Of is
unlike Chatas ha'Of).
(c) Answer: If not for "And he will offer *it*", we would
have learned that Olas ha'Of is like Chatas ha'Of;
1. "U'Malak...v'Hiktir" would teach that just like it
is burned on top of the Mizbe'ach, also Melikah is
(d) Question: What is the source that Chatas Behemah cannot
come from Ma'aser money?
2. Since it says "And he will offer *it*", we learn
both (separation and Melikah on top of the
(e) Answer (Rav Chisda): "Aharon will offer *his* Chatas" -
his, and not of the congregation; his, and not from
(f) Question: Chachamim learn that Olas ha'Of is offered by
day from "like the law" - why don't they learn from "On
the day He commanded"?
(g) Answer: Really, they do; there was no need for the
Beraisa to say that Chachamim (could) learn from "like
(h) Question: Chachamim learn that Olas ha'Of is offered with
the right hand from "like the law" - why don't they learn
like Rabah bar bar Chanah?
1. (Rabah bar bar Chanah): Wherever the Torah says
"finger" or "Kohen", the right hand is required.
(i) Answer: They hold like R. Shimon, who says that '"finger"
teaches that the right hand is required, but "Kohen" does
not (it does not say 'finger' regarding Olas ha'Of).
(j) Question: From where do Chachamim and R. Elazar b'Rebbi
Shimon learn that Melikah of an Olah is on back of the
(k) Answer: They learn a Gezeirah Shavah "Melikah-Melikah".
(a) (Mishnah): The (age of) pigeons acceptable as Korbanos
are Pesulim among doves; the doves acceptable as Korbanos
are Pesulim among pigeons.
(b) When they start to get yellow, both species are Pesulim.
(c) (Gemara - Beraisa): Adult pigeons are Kesherim, young
pigeons are not; young doves are Kesherim, old doves are
1. The Kosher age of pigeons is Pasul regarding doves;
the Kosher age of doves is Pasul regarding pigeons.
(d) (Beraisa): Adult pigeons are Kesherim, not young ones.
1. Suggestion: We should learn a Kal va'Chomer - adult
doves are Pesulim, but young ones are Kesherim -
regarding pigeons, adults are Kesherim, all the more
so young ones!
3) AGES THAT ARE NOT VALID FOR BOTH TYPES OF BIRDS
2. Rejection: "Pigeons" - adults, not young ones.
(e) (Continuation of Beraisa): Young doves are Kesherim, not
1. Suggestion: We should learn a Kal va'Chomer - young
pigeons are Pesulim, but old ones are Kesherim-
regarding doves, young ones are Kesherim, all the
more so adults!
(f) Question: How does this disprove the Kal va'Chomer?
2. Rejection: "Benei Yonah (children of doves)" - young
ones, not adults.
(g) Answer (Rava): If both were Kesherim, at least once the
Torah should have written 'children of pigeons' or
'doves' (and not "children of doves").
(h) Question: Regarding doves, the Torah says "children of
doves", so only young ones are Kesherim; by pigeons,
young and old should be Kesherim!
(i) Answer: Pigeons are like doves - just like only young
doves are Kesherim, only old pigeons are Kesherim.
(j) (Beraisa): One might have thought, all pigeons and doves
are Kesherim - "From the pigeons", not any pigeon; "From
the children of doves", and not any doves.
1. These exclude the beginning of yellowness (of the
feathers), which is Pasul among both.
(k) Question: What is the minimal age of pigeons to be
(l) Answer: When their feathers start to turn gold.
(m) Question: At what age do doves become Pesulim?
(n) Answer: When they start to turn yellow.
(o) (Yakov Karchah - Beraisa): The minimal age of doves to be
Kesherim is when Ya'ala'u.
1. (Yakov Karchah): "His chicks Ya'ala'u blood" - we
see, Ya'ala'u means when the bird bleeds upon
plucking a feather.
(a) Question (R. Zeira): Reuven said 'It is Alai (encumbent
upon me) to bring an Olah, a pigeon or dove'; he brought
a bird at the beginning of yellowing of each species -
did he fulfill his vow?
1. Are we in doubt (if this age is considered young or
old), and he fulfilled his vow with one or the
2. Or, is this an intermediate age which is Pasul for