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Previous daf Chulin 99
CHULIN 99 - sponsored by Dr. Lindsay A. Rosenwald of Lawrence NY, in honor
of his father, David ben Aharon ha'Levy Rosenwald of blessed memory.
1) DO OTHER "ISURIM" BECOME "BATUL"?
(a) Answer #2 (Rava): The Beraisa says that Ta'am of the
Zero'a (absorbed in the ram) is Batul; Ta'am of other
Kodshim is not Batul.
2) THE QUANTITY REQUIRED TO BE "MEVATEL ISURIM"
1. Question: Why don't we learn to other cases?
(b) Answer #3 (Ravina): The place where Zero'a is cut
(towards the body) is permitted; if any other Isur
(Tosfos - of Chulin), was cut off, we may not eat the
place of the cut.
2. Answer: Regarding Chatas it says "Whatever touches
its flesh will become forbidden" - the other food
becomes like the Chatas (even if it only absorbed a
i. If the Chatas was Pasul, the other food may not
be eaten; if it was Kosher, the food has all
the stringencies of a Chatas (it may be eaten
only by Tahor male Kohanim in the Mikdash until
3. Question: Why do we learn from a Chatas and not from
4. Answer: The Zero'a is a Chidush, so we may not learn
5. Question: If so, we should not learn 60 or 100 parts
are needed for Bitul!
6. Answer: We may not learn leniencies from a Chidush,
we may learn stringencies;
i. Mid'Oraisa, even with a simple majority we
ignore the minority!
(a) Question (against Rav Shmuel bar Yitzchak - Abaye): Is it
really true that Isurim are Batul in 100?!
1. (Mishnah): If Terumah fermented or seasoned Chulin
or was cooked with Chulin:
i. Min b'Mino, we are always stringent;
2. (Seifa): An example of Min b'Eino Mino - Terumah
beans were cooked with Chulin lentils:
ii. Min b'Eino Mino, we are sometimes lenient,
i. If the beans gave Ta'am to the lentils, whether
or not there is 101 (times as much mixture as
beans), the lentils must be eaten like Terumah.
ii. If the beans didn't give Ta'am, whether or not
there is 101, the lentils are like Chulin.
iii. Suggestion: 'Whether or not there is 101', 60
suffices to Mevatel!
(b) Answer (Rav Dimi): No, there is 100.
3) "TA'AM" OF THE "GID HA'NASHEH"
(c) Question: The Reisha discusses 100, implying that the
Seifa discusses something else, i.e. 60!
1. (Reisha): Min b'Mino, we are always stringent:
(d) Answer: No, the Reisha discusses 101 parts of Heter, the
Seifa discusses 101 parts of mixture.
i. If Se'or (sourdough, used to ferment) of
(Terumah) wheat fell into a dough of wheat, and
it is large enough to ferment it, whether or
not there is 101, we must treat the dough like
2. (Summation of question): Can both parts of the
Mishnah discuss 100 (parts of Heter (which equals
101 parts of mixture) per part of Isur?! If so, Min
b'Mino is no different than Min b'Eino Mino!)
ii. If we do not have 101 times more, whether or
not the Se'or is enough to ferment the dough,
we must treat the dough like Terumah.
(e) Question: When the Se'or is able to ferment the dough,
why don't 101 parts of dough Mevatel it?
(f) Rav Dimi had no answer.
(g) Answer (Abaye): Perhaps Se'or is more stringent, because
it is a potent fermenting agent.
(h) Support (Rav Dimi): R. Yosi bar Chanina taught, the
quantities needed to Mevatel different foods varies:
1. Fish brine requires 192 parts of Heter.
i. (Mishnah): The brine of Tamei fish is
ii. R. Yehudah says, one Revi'is forbids a mixture
of two Sa'im (192 Reviyos.)
iii. Question: But R. Yehudah holds that Min b'Mino
is never Batul!
iv. Answer: Brine is an exception, it is a mere
secretion (it is only forbidden mid'Rabanan.)
(a) (Mishnah): How do we estimate...
(b) (Rav Huna): We see if meat (equal in volume to the Gid)
would give taste to heads (Tosfos - roots) of turnips
(equal in volume to the thigh it was cooked with.)
(c) Our Mishnah is unlike the following Tana:
1. (Beraisa - R. Yishmael, son of R. Yochanan ben
Brokah): The Gid ha'Nasheh has no Ta'am.
(d) A man asked R. Chanina about a food cooked with the Gid,
he permitted it. R. Yehudah bar Zevina was standing
outside; he told the man to ask again.
1. R. Chanina: Whoever told you to ask again, tell him
that the Gid has no Ta'am.
(e) When people asked R. Ami about such cases, he would send
them to R. Yitzchak ben Chalov, who permits like R.
Yehoshua ben Levi;
1. R. Ami himself held that it has Ta'am and forbids
(but he did not want to rule against R. Yehoshua ben
(f) The Halachah is, the Gid has no Ta'am.
(g) (Mishnah): If a Gid ha'Nasheh was cooked with other Gidim
(h) Question: It should be Batul in the majority!
(i) Answer: It is a Briyah, it is never Batul.