REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chulin 3
(a) Abaye answers the original Kashya (regarding 'ha'Kol Shochtim
u'Shechitasan Kesheirah') differently. He establishes 'ha'Kol Shochtin' by a
Under what circumstances may he Shecht Lechatchilah?
(b) What does Abaye say about a case where a Yisrael walked in and out
during the Shechitah ('Yotzei ve'Nichnas')?
(c) What is the problem with a Kuti's Shechitah? Why can he not be trusted
even with a Yisrael walking in and out during the Shechitah?
(a) How do the Kutim interpret the Pasuk in Kedoshim "Lifnei Iver Lo Siten
(b) How does Abaye then interpret 'u'Shechitasan Kesheirah'?
(c) What is the problem with the Seifa 've'Chulan she'Shachtu, va'Acherim
Ro'in Osan, Shechitasan Kesheirah'?
(d) How do we answer it?
(a) Rava queries Abaye from a Mishnah in Avodah-Zarah.
What does the Tana
there say (regarding the Kashrus of the wine) in a case where someone leaves
a Nochri in his wine-store, and arranges with a Yisrael to go in from time
(b) Then what prevents us from learning from there that a Kuti too, may
Shecht Lechatchilah under the same circumstances?
(c) Rava does prove his point however, from the Seifa of that Mishnah.
What does the Tana say about a Shomer (a supervisor)?
(d) Why does the Seifa not contradict the Reisha, which only permits such a
(a) So Rava too, establishes our Mishnah by a Kuti.
But how does *he*
establish 'ha'Kol Shochtin'? Under what circumstances may a Kuti Shecht
(b) And how does he then interpret 'u'Shechitasan Kesheirah' Bedi'eved?
(c) What problem do we have with the Seifa 've'Chulan she'Shachtu va'Acherim
Ro'in Osan ... '? It cannot refer to a Chashu, as we have already explained.
But why can it not refer to a Kuti when a Yisrael is Yotzei ve'Nichnas?
(a) Rav Ashi solves the problem in our Mishnah by establishing the case by a
What problem do we have with the Seifa 've'Chulan she'Shachtu va'Acherim
Ro'in Osan ... '? Why can it not refer to a Mumar who Shechted with a knife
that was ...
What is a 'Mumar'?
(b) Based on a statement of Rava, under which circumstances does 'ha'Kol
Shochtin' then speak?
(c) What is the definition of a 'Mumar le'Te'avon'? On what grounds do we
trust his Shechitah here (even Lechatchilah)?
(d) How does 'u'Shechitaso Kesheirah' then speak?
Answers to questions
- ... previously inspected?
- ... not previously inspected, assuming that the knife is available?
- ... not previously inspected, assuming that it is not?
(a) Ravina learns 'ha'Kol Shochtin', 'ha'Kol Mumchin Shochtin'.
(b) This speaks even though he does not have experience.
How do we define
(c) Seeing as he is fluent in the Halachos, why might we have thought that a
lack of experience will make any difference?
(d) And how will we then explain ...
- ... 'u'Shechitasan Kesheirah'?
- ... 've'Chulan she'Shachtu'?
(a) Alternatively, Ravina learns 'ha'Kol Muchzakin Shochtin', with
reference to an experienced Shochet.
Does it make any difference whether
we know him to be conversant in Hilchos Shechitah or not?
(b) And how will we then explain ...
- ... 'u'Shechitasan Kesheirah' then refer to?
- ... 've'Chulan she'Shachtu' then refer to?
(a) Why do Ravina ('ha'Kol Shochtin Mumchin/Muchzakin') and Rabah bar Ula
('ha'Kol Shochtin Afilu Tamei be'Chulin') decline to learn like Abaye
('ha'Kol Shochtin Afilu Kuti ... be'Yisrael Omdin al Gabav'), Rava ('ha'Kol
Shochtin Afilu Kuti ... be'Yotzei ve'Nichnas') and Rav Ashi ('ha'Kol
Shochtin Afilu Yisrael Mumar')?
(b) Why do the other Amora'im decline to learn like ...
(c) Rava declines to learn like Abaye, because of his Kashya from the
Mishnah in Avodah-Zarah ('Ein ha'Shomer Tzarich Lih'yos Yoshev u'Meshamer
... '). But why does Abaye decline to learn like Rava?
- ... Rabah bar Ulah in the first Lashon, which considers the Mishnah in Chulin to be the Ikar?
- ... Rabah bar Ulah in the second Lashon, which considers the Sugya in Zevachim to be the Ikar?
- ... Ravina in the first Lashon ('ha'Kol Mumchin Shochtin')?
- ... Ravina in the second Lashon ('ha'Kol Muchzakin Shochtin')?
(a) Why does Rav Ashi decline to learn like Abaye and Rava?
Answers to questions
(b) Abaye declines to learn like Rav Ashi, because he disagrees with Rava
('Yisrael Ochel Neveilos le'Te'avon ... '), on whom Rav Ashi's opinion is
But why does Rava not learn like Rav Ashi, with whom he obviously