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GITIN 77-79 - Dedicated by an admirer of the work of the Dafyomi Advancement
Forum, l'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Gisela Turkel, Golda bas Reb Chaim Yitzchak Ozer,
1) A GET ACQUIRED IN MID-AIR
(a) (Mishnah): She was standing on the roof and he threw her
a Get - once it reaches the airspace above the roof, she
2) RECEIVING A GET THROUGH PROPERTY
(b) If he was on the roof and she was below, and he threw her
a Get - once it leaves the airspace of the roof, even if
it was blotted out or burned in mid-air, she is divorced.
(c) (Gemara) Question: Why is she divorced - the roof is not
guarded (so it cannot acquire for her)!
(d) Answer #1 (Rav Yehudah): The case is, there is a railing
around the roof.
(e) Answer #2 (Ula bar Manshiya): The case is, the Get passed
less than 3 Tefachim above the roof.
1. Anything less than 3 Tefachim above the roof is as
(resting on) the roof.
(f) (Mishnah): If he was on the roof...
(g) (Gemara) Question: Why is she divorced - the roof is not
guarded (so it cannot acquire for her)!
(h) Answer (Rav Yehudah, R. Elazar, Ula, R. Asi): The case
is, the walls of the yard (in which she stands) are
higher than the roof (so the Get is guarded).
(i) Question (R. Aba, also R. Zeira): Is this according to
Rebbi, who says (regarding Shabbos) that something in
mid-air is considered as resting?
(j) Answer (Ula, also R. Asi): No it is even as Chachamim.
1. They only argue regarding Shabbos - but Gitin
depends on the Get being guarded, and here the Get
(k) (Mishnah): It was blotted out...
(l) (Rav Nachman): This only applies if it was blotted out as
it descended - but if it was blotted out as it ascended,
she is not divorced.
(m) Question: Why not?
(n) Answer: While ascending, it is not standing to land (so
we cannot judge that it is as if it has already landed).
(o) (Mishnah): It burned up ...
(p) (Rav Nachman): This only applies if he threw the Get
before there was a fire - but if the fire came first, she
is not divorced.
(q) Question: Why not?
(r) Answer: From the moment he threw it, it was standing to
(a) (Rav Chisda): If a husband lent his wife to receive her
Get, he only lent her 1 property.
(b) Question (Rami bar Chama): What is Rav Chisda's source?
(c) Answer (Rava - Mishnah): She was standing on the roof and
he threw her a Get - once it reaches the airspace above
the roof, she is divorced.
1. Question: What is the case?
(d) Rejection: No - the beginning of the Mishnah is when he
owns the yard and she owns the roof; the end of the
Mishnah is when she owns the yard and he owns the roof.
i. Suggestion: If she owns the yard and the roof -
she is divorced even before it enters the
airspace of the roof!
2. Answer: It must be, he owns the yard and she owns
ii. Suggestion: If he owns the yard and the roof -
even after it enters the airspace of the roof,
she is not divorced!
3. (End of the Mishnah): If he was on the roof and she
was below, and he threw her a Get - once it leaves
the airspace of the roof, even if it was blotted out
or burned in mid-air, she is divorced.
4. Question: If also here, he owns the yard and she
owns the roof, why is she divorced?
5. Answer: It must be, she owns the yard and he owns
6. Objection This is unreasonable - the Mishnah should
7. Answer: Rather, it must be that he owns both, and he
lends her a place to receive the Get;
i. Since the Mishnah says that she is not divorced
until the Get enters the airspace of where she
is - we learn that he only lent her that place,
for a man only lends 1 place.
(e) (Rava): There are 3 laws regarding receiving a Get
1. Rebbi considers an airborne object to be resting and
Chachamim argue - but that is only regarding
Shabbos, but here all agree that the Get is
acquired, because it is guarded.
2. Rav Chisda taught: if one erects a beam in a private
domain with a basket on top, even if it is 100 Amos
tall, one who throws something into it from the
public domain is liable, for the private domain
extends to the sky.
i. That is only regarding Shabbos - but a Get is
not acquired thusly, for a Get must be guarded,
and this is not considered guarded.
3) AN OLD GET
3. Rav Yehudah taught: a person should not stand on a
roof and collect rainwater from another roof (even
if attached), for just as the houses below are
distinct residences, the roofs are considered
distinct (and we do not transfer from 1 private
domain to a different private domain on Shabbos).
(f) (Abaye): A woman owns an inner courtyard, her husband
owns an outer courtyard. The walls of the outer are
higher than those of the inner. He threw her a Get - once
it (is above her courtyard) and is lower than the outer
walls, she is divorced.
i. That is only regarding Shabbos - but Gitin
depend on the will of the husband (who lent his
wife the roof to receive the Get) - a man is
not so particular that he cares on which roof
she receives the Get.
(g) Question: Why is this - the Get is not guarded within the
walls of her property!
(h) Answer: The outer walls also service the inner courtyard.
1. This does not apply to boxes: if she owns an inner
box, and he owns the outer box and throws a Get -
even after it in the airspace of her box, she is not
2. Question: Why is this?
3. Answer: It has not rested yet.
4. Question: Even after it rests, why is she divorced -
this is as the vessel of the buyer in the domain of
5. Answer: The case is, his box has no bottom (her box
rests on the ground).
(a) (Mishnah): Beis Shamai say, a man may divorce his wife
with an old Get; Beis Hillel forbid this.
1. A Get is old if the couple were in seclusion after
the Get was written.
(b) (Gemara) Question: On what do they argue?
(c) Answer: Beis Shamai hold that we do not decree lest she
became pregnant after the writing, and people will assume
that the Get was given on the date written and say that
the child was conceived after the divorce; Beis Hillel
make such a decree.
(d) [Version #1 (R. Aba): If she got married relying on an
old Get, she may remain married.]
(e) [Version #2 (R. Aba): If she was divorced with an old
Get, she may remarry l'Chatchilah.]