REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
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GITIN 72 (27 Nisan) - has been dedicated to the memory of ha'Rav Shmuel (ben
Aharon) Grunfeld of Jerusalem/Efrat. Rav Shmuel was a truly great Torah
scholar, whose tragic death left all who knew him with an inconsolable sense
(a) Rav Ashi establishes our Mishnah like Rebbi Yossi.
Then why does the
Tana said 'Kesuvu' and not 'T'nu' or 'Imru', or stress that he speaks even
if he said it to three people?
(b) The Tana of the Beraisa 'Kasav Sofer Lishmah, ve'Chasmu Eidim Lishmah,
Af-al-Pi she'Kasvuhu ve'Chasmuhu ve'Nasnuhu Lo ve'Nasnu Lah, Harei ha'Get
Batel ad she'Yishme'u Kolo she'Yomar le'Sofer K'sov ... '.
What do we
infer from ...
- ... 'ad she'Yishme'u'?
- ... 'Kolo'?
(a) What do the following have in common ...
(b) The Tana of our Mishnah adds that if the husband says 'me'Hayom
u'le'Achar Misah, Get ve'Eino Get'.
- ...' Zeh Gitech im Meisi'; 'Zeh Gitech me'Choli Zeh'; 'Zeh Gitech le'Achar Misah'? Why is that?
- ... 'me'Hayom Im Meisi'; 'me'Achshav Im Meisi'?
Why is that?
(c) What will the Din then be, in the event that he dies leaving no
(d) And what does the Tana rule in a case where the husband says 'Zeh Gitech
me'Hayom Im Meisi me'Choli Zeh', and he subsequently got up from his
sick-bed, walked in the street, became sick again and died?
(a) We just saw how in the Reisha, 'Im Meisi' implies 'after death', whereas
in the Seifa, it implies 'from now'.
How does Abaye explain this?
(b) According to Rav Huna, in the case of our Mishnah 'Zeh Gitech Im Meisi',
the Tana holds 'Choletzes'.
Why is that?
(c) Why does the Tana then conclude 'Zeh Gitech Im Meisi, *Lo Amar K'kum*'?
(a) Rav Huna explains the fact that the Seifa of the Mishnah (in the case of
'me'Hayom u'Le'achar Misah') rules 'Choletzes ve'Lo Misyabemes', implying
that the Reisha does not, goes like the Rabbanan (refuting our previous
understanding of Rav Huna, including the previous answer).
Like whom does
he then hold?
(b) What ...
(c) What is the problem with establishing Rav Huna like Rebbi Yossi?
- ... do the Rabbanan say in the Mishnah in Bava Basra (with regard to someone who writes all his property to his son)?
- ... does Rebbi Yossi say there?
(d) On what grounds do we refute the suggestion that Rav Huna has a Safek
whether to rule like Rebbi Yossi or not?
(a) When Rav Huna and Rav Nachman went to visit Rabah bar Avuhah on his
sickbed, what did the former ...
Answers to questions
(b) Rabah bar Avuhah ruled like Rebbi Yossi.
- ... ask the latter to ask him?
- ... retort when the latter initially replied that, seeing as he did not understand Rebbi Yossi's reasoning, how could he possibly ask whether the Halachah was like him?
How did Rav Huna then explain
Rebi Yossi's reason?
(c) We suggest that Rav Huna's Safek is whether Rebbi Yossi's ruling extends
even to where the T'nai was stated orally, and not inserted in the Sh'tar.
Why might that be any worse than if it was?
(d) On what grounds do we refute this suggestion?
(a) The Tana Kama in the Mishnah later rules that if a man said to his wife
'Harei Zeh Gitech Im Lo Ba'si mi'Kahn ve'Ad Sh'teim-Esrei Chodesh' and dies
within twelve months 'Eino Get' (and she remains obligated to perform
Who were 'Raboseinu' who permit her to marry?
(b) Like whom do they hold?
(a) What does Rava say about the case of a man who said to his wife 'Harei
Zeh Gitech ...
(b) Why do we initially decline to establish Rava's first statement when he
said 'me'Hayom', in which case Rava holds like the Rabbanan?
- ... Im Meisi, ve'she'Ani Meis'?
- ... ke'she'Amus, u'le'Achar Misah'?
(c) Then how will we establish Rava? Like which Tana does he hold?
(d) In light of this, how can we possibly conclude that Rav Huna's Safek is
whether we rule like Rebbi Yossi even when the condition was made orally?
(a) Alternatively, Rava speaks when the husband said 'me'Hayom' and he holds
like the Rabbanan.
Then what is Rava's Chidush?
(b) How will this resolve our Kashya on Rav Huna?
(a) Others learn Rav Huna's statement (Choletzes) on the Seifa 'Zeh Gitech
le'Achar Misah, Lo Amar K'lum'.
We ask on this 'P'shita!' Why is it so
(b) We answer that Rav Huna needs to inform us that Rebbi Yossi does not
hold like Rebbi.
What does Rebbi say with regard to 'me'Hayom u'le'Achar
(c) Rav Huna extrapolates that Rebbi Yossi disagrees with Rebbi because of
the Lashon 'ka'Zeh Get', implying that there is a case where the Get is not
valid, and that case can only be 'me'Hayom u'le'Achar Misah'.
Rebbi Yossi need to inform us that such a Get is invalid? Why might we have
(a) In which regard does Rebbi disagree with Rebbi Yossi?
(b) From where do we know that he argues with him?
(a) What did Rav Huna mean when he said (with reference to the Get of a
Shechiv-Mera) 'Gito ke'Matanaso'?
(b) Does it make any difference whether the husband said 'Im Meisi' when he
gave the Get or not?
(c) And what did he mean when he said (also with reference to a
Shechiv-Mera) 'Matanaso ke'Gito'?
(d) What do we ask on the first of Rav Huna's two Dinim, from our Mishnah,
from the case of 'Zeh Gitech me'Hayom Im Meisi me'Choli Zeh, ve'Amad
ve'Halach ba'Shuk, ve'Chalah u'Meis, Omdin Oso ... '?
(a) Mar B'rei de'Rav Yosef answers that the Mishnah speaks when he went from
one illness to another without actually recovering in between.
Answers to questions
How does he
interpret the Tana's use of ...
(b) We can now extrapolate from the Mishnah Rebbi Elazar Amar Rav's Chidush.
- ... the word 'Amad'?
- ... the phrase 've'Halach Al Mish'anto'?
What does he say Chidush?