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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Horayos 14
HORAYOS 12-14 - One week of study material has been dedicated by Mrs. Rita
Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in loving memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok
Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger. Irving Grunberger helped many people quietly
in an unassuming manner and is dearly missed by all who knew him. His
Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan.
(a) Rebbi Nasan asked Raban Shimon ben Gamliel for Mechilah - following a
dream where he received instructions to appease him.
(b) Rebbi Meir had the same dream, yet he declined to go - because he
considered dreams to be meaningless.
(c) Raban Shimon ben Gamliel commented to Rebbi Nasan - that if his 'Z'chus
Avos' worked to secure him the position of Av Beis-Din, that did not mean
that it would also secure him the Nesi'us (since he was not a descendant of
(a) Rebbi taught his son Rebbi Shimon, a Beraisa regarding a case where
someone declared the ninth, tenth and eleventh animals 'Ma'aser'. Rebbi Meir
ruled - that the eleventh animal was brought as a Shelamim, and could even
make a Temurah.
(b) Rebbi Yehudah queried this on the grounds that the eleventh animal is
considered a Temurah, and one Temurah cannot make another Temurah. Acherim
replied - that had it been considered a Temurah, then it could not have been
brought as a Shelamim.
(c) When his son ...
1. ... expressed surprise that the name of a Chacham 'whose water we drink'
is not mentioned, Rebbi replied - that these were people who had attempted
to uproot his Kavod and that of his family.
(d) Rebbi Shimon countered that - by confining this Pasuk to where his
threat bore fruit (but not to where it failed, as Rebbi Meir had done).
2. ... quoted the Pasuk "Gam Ahavasam, Gam Sin'asam Gam Kin'asam K'var
Avdah" (meaning that Rebbi Meir's deed was long over and forgotten, and
should therefore be forgiven), he answered him with the Pasuk "ha'Oyev Tamu
Charavos la'Netzach" (meaning that an attack against the Nesi'us left its
imprint forever [bearing in mind that Rebbi Meir had not apologized]).
(a) Rebbi subsequently quoted Rebbi Meir - by name, but quoted by others.
(b) Rava commented on this - that even Rebbi, the epitome of humility,
declined to mention Rebbi Meir directly.
(a) Raban Shimon ben Gamliel and the Rabbanan argue over which is
preferable, 'Sinai' - which refers to someone who possesses superior Beki'us
(a wide knowledge of the texts) or 'Oker Harim' - someone who is sharper,
with a deeper understanding of the texts that he learns.
(b) This Machlokes affected Rabah - who was 'Oker Harim', and Rav Yosef -
who was 'Sinai'.
(c) The Chachamim of that generation concluded that 'Sinai' takes
precedence - because everyone needs 'the person who owns large stores'.
(d) In that case, Rav Yosef should have become the Rosh Yeshivah - but he
declined, allowing Rabah to rule first. And it was only after the latter's
death twenty-two years later, that he became Rosh Yeshivah.
(a) The extent of Rav Yosef's humility - was that, for the duration of those
twenty-two years, he did not even allow a blood-letter to enter his house,
but lowered himself to visit the blood-letter (see also Tosfos ha'Rosh)..
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(b) Abaye, Rava, Rebbi Zeira and Rabah bar Masnah were once sitting
together. They appointed Abaye as the Rosh Yeshivah - following the
agreement that the first one to say a D'var Torah without being disproved
would become the Rosh Yeshivah. And Abaye was the first one (see also
(c) When Rava saw Abaye adopt on aura of greatness, he told him to go ahead
and Darshen. He called him Nachmeini - because that was his real name (Abaye
is the acronym for 'Asher Becha Yerucham Yasom').
(d) We ask who takes precedence, Rebbi Zeira or Rabah bar Masna. Rebbi Zeira
was the sharper of the two - but Rabah bar Masna's strong point was to take
his time to delve into the matter, ultimately arriving at the truth.
(e) The outcome of the She'eilah is 'Teiku'.
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