REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Horayos 5
HORAYOS 5 - Today's Daf has been dedicated by Rabbi Dr. Eli and Jeri Turkel,
of Ra'anana Israel, in honor of the births of the new grandchildren, Yisrael
Yehonatan (to Tamar and Netanel Casado) and Avigayil Zahava (to Limor and
(a) According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, in a case where Beis-Din err
with regard to other sins, they bring a bull.
What will they have to bring
if they err with regard to Avodah-Zarah?
(b) According to Rebbi Yehudah, if Beis-Din err with regard to most sins,
they bring twelve bulls.
What will they bring if they err with regard to
(c) What is the basis of their Machlokes?
(d) What does Rebbi Shimon say? What is his reason?
(a) According to Rebbi Meir, in a case where the majority of K'lal Yisrael
sinned following Beis-Din erroneous ruling, Beis-Din bring one bull (or a
bull and a goat).
What does ...
(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah say about one tribe that sinned following the
erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din (of twenty-three)?
- ... Rebbi Yehudah say in a case where one tribe sinned?
- ... Rebbi Shimon say in a case where seven tribes sinned?
(c) What do the Chachamim learn from the Pasuk "ve'Im Kol Adas Yisrael
(d) Does this mean that no Korban is brought in this case?
(a) What does the Tana Kama of the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk "ve'Nod'ah
ha'Chatas (Asher Chat'u Alehah, Ve'hikrivu)"?
(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah there learn from ...
(c) Actually, even one tribe brings a bull, if it alone followed the ruling
of Beis-Din ha'Gadol.
- ... "Asher Chat'u"?
- ... "Ve'hikrivu ha'Kahal"?
Then why does he present the case of two tribes that
(a) What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Kahal" "Kahal"
("Ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal" from "ve'Ne'elam me'Einei ha'Kahal")?
(b) How can Rebbi Meir learn from the same 'Gezeirah-Shavah' that if seven
tribes followed Beis-Din's ruling, the latter bring only one bull?
(a) We initially presume that the Tana Kama of the current Beraisa
('Ve'nod'ah ha'Chatas') cannot be Rebbi Eliezer. What does Rebbi Eliezer
(in another Beraisa) say about someone who knows that he ate either Cheilev
or Nosar, but is not sure which one?
(b) Rav Ashi reconciles Rebbi Eliezer with the earlier Beraisa by citing the
Pasuk "Asher Chat'u Alehah".
What does he gain by that?
(c) We counter this by citing the Pasuk "Asher Chata Bah"(in connection with
a regular Chatas) which has the same connotations.
How do we refute this
Kashya? What does Rebbi Eliezer learn from "Asher Chata Bah"?
(a) What do we mean when, to explain Rebbi Yehudah's opinion, we refer to
four times "Kahal"?
(b) The first of these comes to teach us that each tribe must bring a
Chatas, and the second, that it is the Beis-Din who must issue the ruling
and the Kahal who must act on it.
The third "Kahal" comes to teach us
G'reirah. What is 'G'reirah'?
(c) What does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the fourth ''Kahal"?
(d) According to Rebbi Shimon, "me'Einei ha'Kahal" is not redundant, which
leaves him with only three times "Kahal".
With which of Rebbi Yehudah's
four D'rashos does he agree?
(a) What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the other two 'Kahals' (with a
Answers to questions
(b) Rebbi Meir learns the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' differently than Rebbi Shimon
(i.e. that just as "me'Einei ha'Kahal" speaks exclusively about the Beis-Din
[as we explained earlier], so too, does "ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal", and that
Beis-Din alone is therefore obligated to bring a bull). Why does he only
contend with two of the 'Kahals', and not three?
(c) What does Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar quoting Rebbi Meir, Darshen from the
(d) How does he reconcile the two D'rashos?
- ... "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah"?
- ... "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah"?
(a) What does Abaye learn from the Pasuk in Sh'lach-Lecha "Ve'hayah Im
me'Einei ha'Eidah Ne'es'sah li'Shegagah" (according to Rebbi Shimon and
(b) Rava learns it from the Pasuk there "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah" as
Why does he need this Pasuk? Why will Abaye's Pasuk alone not
(c) Why does Abaye then need the Pasuk of "Ve'hayah . ... "? Why will Rava's
Pasuk not suffice?
(d) Both these Pesukim are written in connection with Avodah-Zarah.
will Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Meir apply all of this to Shigegas Hora'ah by
(a) We ask whether, according to Rebbi Yehudah, if one tribe sins, each of
the other tribes are obligated to bring a Par as well.
She'eilah extend to two, three of four tribes that sin too, or is it only
confined to one tribe that sins?
(b) We try to resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama
obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two.
Why can the Beraisa not be
speaking about ...
(c) So how do we think the Beraisa must be speaking, to resolve our
- ... seven tribes that sinned?
- ... one tribe that sinned following the erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din?
(d) We refute the proof by establishing the Beraisa when six tribes
comprising the majority sinned.
Who will the Tana Kama then be?
(e) Under which circumstances does Rebbi Shimon then say that each tribe
must bring its own bull?
(a) We resolve our She'eilah from a Beraisa.
What distinction does Rebbi
Yehudah there draw between a tribe that sinned followed an erroneous ruling
of its own Beis-Din and one that sinned following the erroneous ruling of
the Beis-Din ha'Gadol?
(b) How does Rav Ashi support this from Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah, where
(with regard to one tribe following an erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din)
he says 'Oso Sheivet Chayav, ve'Sha'ar Kol ha'Shevatim Peturim'?
(a) We ask whether, according to Rebbi Shimon, one tribe that sins is
obligated to bring a bull be'Shigegas Hora'ah (bearing in mind that he does,
after all hold that one tribe is called 'Kahal').
What will they bring
assuming that there are not?
(b) We try to resolve the She'eilah citing the same Beraisa again, where the
Tana Kama obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two, by establishing it when
one tribe sinned following the erroneous ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol.
Focusing on the Tana Kama, why are we forced to reject this explanation?
(c) So how do we establish the Beraisa?
(d) We finally resolve the She'eilah from our Mishnah (with reference to
Rebbi Yehudah's ruling, obligating one tribe who sinned following its
Beis-Din's erroneous ruling) 'va'Chachamim Omrim Eino Chayav Ela al Hora'as
How do we know that the Chachamim is Rebbi Shimon and
not Rebbi Meir?
(a) What do we try to prove from the Pasuk in Divrei Hayamim "Va'ya'amod
Yehoshafat bi'Kehal Yehudah vi'Yerushalayim ... "?
(b) Rebbi Yochanan explains that "Lifnei Chatzer ha'Chadashah" in the same
Pasuk, refers to a new decree.
(c) On what grounds does Rav Acha bar Ya'akov reject the proof from there
that one tribe is called 'Kahal'?
(a) How does Rav Acha bar Ya'akov then prove it from the Pasuk in Vayechi,
where Ya'akov's quotes Hashem as having said to him "Hineni Mafrecha
Ve'hirbisicha u'Nesaticha li'Kehal Amim"?
Answers to questions
(b) Rav Sh'va asked Rav Kahana whether the Pasuk might not mean that when
Binyamin was born, then the twelve tribes, who were called 'Kahal' would be
What did Rav Kahana reply?