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Horayos 13

HORAYOS 12-14 - One week of study material has been dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in loving memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger. Irving Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner and is dearly missed by all who knew him. His Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan.


(a) Bearing in mind that the Torah has already written "Ve'asah la'Par Ka'asher Asah le'Par ha'Chatas", what does the Tana of the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the He'elam ha'Eidah) "Ve'saraf Oso Ka'asher Saraf es ha'Par ha'Rishon"?

(b) What reason does another Beraisa give for this precedence?

(c) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with Aharon's Par on Yom Kipur) "Ve'chiper Ba'ado u'Ve'ad Beiso ... "?

(a) On what grounds does the Beraisa gives the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur precedence over the Par shel Avodas-Kochavim?

(b) In connection with the two birds of a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, the Torah, in Vayikra, has already written "ve'es ha'Sheini Ya'aseh Olah ka'Mishpat". Why does it then add "Ve'hikriv es Asher la'Chatas Rishonah"?

(c) Does this even extend to a Chatas ha'Of and an Olas Beheimas?

(d) What problem do we now have with the Tana's ruing that the Par Avodas-Kochavim takes precedence over the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim?

(a) What did they learn in Eretz Yisrael in the name of Rabah bar Mari from the fact that the word "Chatas" by the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim is missing an 'Alef'?

(b) Rava answers the Kashya by citing the word "ka'Mishpat" written by Avodas-Kochavim.
What does that imply?

(c) And on what basis does the Sa'ir ...

  1. ... Avodas-Kochavim take precedence over the Sa'ir of the Nasi?
  2. ... of the Nasi take precedence over the Se'irah of a Yachid?
(a) One Beraisa gives the Se'irah of a Yachid precedence over a Kisbah.
What does another Beraisa say?

(b) Abaye presents this as a Machlokes Tana'im.
On what basis might one give precedence to the ...

  1. ... Se'irah?
  2. ... Kisbah?
(c) What does the Beraisa say about the Omer (on Pesach) and the Sh'tei ha'Lechem (on Shavu'os) and the Korbanos that accompany them?

(d) What reason does the Tana give for this?

(a) If our Mishnah gives precedence to a man over a woman to save his life and to return his lost articles, in which two areas does the Tana give precedence to a woman?

(b) Under which circumstances does a male captive take precedence?

(c) How does the Beraisa place the order of precedence if Reuven, his mother, his father and his Rebbe were all captured (assuming that Reuven, has sufficient funds to redeem one, two or three of them)?

(d) A Chacham, says the Tana, takes precedence over a king.
Why is that?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Melachim, where David Hamelech said ..
  1. ... to Tzadok ha'Kohen "Kechu Imachem es Avdei Adoneichem"?
  2. ... "u'Mashach Oso Sham Tzadok ha'Kohen ve'Nasan ha'Navi"?
(b) And what do we learn from the Pasuk in Zecharyah ...
  1. .... "Sh'ma Na Yehoshua ha'Kohen ha'Gadol Atah ve'Re'echa ... "?
  2. ... "Ki Anshei Mofes Heimah"?
(c) In what order of priority does the Beraisa place S'gan, Mashu'ach Milchamah, Kohen she'Avar Machmas Mumo, Kohen sha'Avar Machmas Kiryo, Merubeh Begadim and Kohen Mashi'ach?

(d) At the lower end of the scale, the order reads S'gan, Amarkol, Gizbar, Rosh Mishmar, Rosh Beis Av and Kohen Hedyot.
Who was the Amarkol? Why was he called by that name?

(a) They asked what the Din would be if a S'gan and a Mashu'ach Milchamah came upon a Meis Mitzvah (i.e. which one would be obligated to bury it and render himself Tamei). Mar Zutra b'rei de'Rav Nachman, citing a Beraisa, placed the onus on the Mashu'ach Milchamah.
Why is that?

(b) And how did he reconcile this ruling with another Beraisa, which gives precedence to the Mashu'ach Milchamah?

(c) Why is that?

(a) A Kohen, Levi, Yisrael and Mamzer follow that order of precedence. In what order does our Mishnah place an Eved Meshuchrar (an Eved who has been set free), a Ger, a Nasin (whom Yehoshua appointed wood-choppers and water-drawers) and a Mamzer?

(b) Under what circumstances does a Mamzer have priority over a Kohen Gadol? (c) What do we learn from the Pasuk ...

  1. ... in Divrei Hayamim "B'nei Amram, Aharon u'Moshe, Va'yavdel Aharon .."?
  2. ... in Eikev "ba'Eis ha'Hi Hivdil Hashem es Sheivet ha'Levi"?
(d) Why does the Tana give priority to ...
  1. ... a Yisrael over a Mamzer?
  2. ... a Mamzer over a Nasin?
  3. ... a Nasin over a Ger?
  4. ... a Ger over an Eved Meshuchrar?
(a) What does Rav Acha b'Rebbi Chanina learn from the Pasuk in Mishlei (with reference to Torah) "Yekarah Hi mi'Peninim"? How does "P'ninim" imply a Kohen Gadol?

(b) We just explained why a Ger takes precedence over an Eved Meshuchrar. What reason does Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai in a Beraisa give to explain why if not for that, an Eved Meshuchrar would be given priority?

(c) How does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok distinguish between a Giyores and a Meshuchreres, based on the same curse?

(d) What alternative reason do we give for the fact that people are happy to marry a Giyores, but shun a Shifchah Meshuchreres?

(a) What did Rebbi Elazar reply when his Talmidim asked him ...
  1. ... why a cat does not acknowledge its Creator, even though a dog does?
  2. ... why people tend to chase mice relentlessly?
(b) Rava gave as an example, the fact that they even bite clothes.
What did Rav Papa say?
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(a) What does the Beraisa say about eating something that a mouse or cat ate, the heart of an animal or olives (regularly)?

(b) Which other two things does the Tana include in this list (both to do with washing)?

(c) According to others, how might where he puts his clothes have the same affect?

(a) And what does the Tana say about eating bread baked on coal, the coal itself or a boiled egg without salt?

(b) The Tana adds someone who drinks olive oil regularly.
Which two other things does it list, besides someone who drinks from the leftovers water used for kneading dough?

(c) What do others add?

(d) The inclusion of olive-oil and wine and spices in the list remind us of statements by Rebbi Yochanan and Rava respectively.
What did ...

  1. ... Rebbi Yochanan say with regard to the corollary between olives and olive-oil?
  2. ... Rava say about wine and spices?
(a) According to Resh Lakish, when Yesh Omrim added to the list dipping one's finger in salt and eating it, he meant specifically one finger and no more. This is also the opinion of Rebbi Yehudah in another Beraisa.
What does Rebbi Yossi say?

(b) How will the Kemitzah (the index finger) help us to remember this Machlokes?

(c) What does the Beraisa say about someone who walks under the bridle of a camel or the camel itself, someone who passes between two camels or two women, or two men between whom a woman passes?

(d) The Tana adds someone who inhales the repugnant smell of a carcass.
Why does he use the expression 'ha'Over Tachas' in that connection"?

(a) And he also adds someone who stands underneath a bridge or who eats bread or meat.
What sort of ...
  1. ... bridge?
  2. ... bread?
  3. ... meat?
(b) One of the two final items that the Tana lists are someone who drinks from a stream which runs through a Beis-ha'Kevaros.
What is the other?

(c) Others add a third item (that is connected to the previous two).
What is it?

(a) The Beraisa discusses the procedure when the various sages enter the Beis-Hamedrash. When the Nasi enters, everyone is obligated to rise from their seats, and when the Av Beis-Din enters, they form two rows, between which he passes.
When are they permitted to sit in each case?

(b) The Din of sitting down regarding a Chacham, is equivalent to that of an Av Beis-Din.
What is the procedure when he enters?

(c) Under which circumstances are the sons of the Chachamim and their Talmidim permitted to ...

  1. ... pass over the heads of the people when they enter a full Beis-Hamedrash?
  2. ... return once they leave?
(d) What difference does the Tana Kama draw between the children of the community leaders who are able to understand the D'rashah and those who are not?

(e) How does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi extend this latter Halachah beyond the precincts of the Beis-Hamedrash?

(a) We just learned that the sons of the Chachamim and their Talmidim are permitted to return once they leave - provided they left because they needed to.
How does Rav Papa qualify this?

(b) His reason is based on a statement of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav.
What did Rav say about relieving oneself?

(c) Why does this distinction no longer apply?

(d) And how does Rava qualify Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi's ruling (regarding placing the sons of the community leaders besides the elders in the banquet-hall)?

(a) The current Beraisa was learned in the days of Raban Shimon ben Gamliel.
What was the original Minhag? Why did he change it?

(b) Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Nasan were not in the Beis-Hamedrash that day. What were their respective statuses?

(c) What did they decide to do to teach him a lesson?

(d) What did they mean when they quoted the Pasuk in Tehilim "Mi Yemalel Gevuros Hashem Yashmi'a Kol Tehilaso"?

(e) What did they intend to achieve by planning this coup?

(a) Rebbi Ya'akov ben Karshi overheard them plotting.
What made him intervene on the part of Raban Shimon ben Gamliel?

(b) How did he set about saving him? How did Raban Shimon ben Gamliel react?

(c) How did he initially penalize Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Nasan?

(d) What made him change his mind? Who caused him to make the change?

(e) How did he switch the punishment?

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