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Previous daf Kesuvos 61
KESUVOS 61 - dedicated by Uri Wolfson and Naftali Wilk in honor of Rav
Mordechai Rabin of Har Nof, a true beacon of Torah and Chesed.
1) WHEN IS A WIFE OBLIGED TO NURSE?
(a) If she ate eggs, the children will have big eyes; if she
ate fish, the children will have grace in the eyes of
people; if she ate celery, the children will be radiant;
if she ate coriander, the children will be stout; if she
ate Esrog, the children will be fragrant.
2) EXEMPTION FROM CHORES
1. Shvor Malka's wife ate Esrog; when Shvor Malka
wanted to smell fragrances, the first thing they
would bring was his daughter.
(b) (Rav Huna): If she wants to nurse, and her husband
objects, she may nurse - it pains her not to nurse;
(c) Question (Rav Huna Bar Chinena): If he wants her to
nurse, and she does not want to, what is the law?
1. If it is not the custom of her family to nurse, she
need not nurse.
(d) Answer (Rav Huna - Beraisa): She goes up with him (in
matters of honor) and does not descend with him.
2. If it is the custom of her family to nurse, but not
his family, what is the law?
i. Do we go after his family, or after hers?
1. (Rav Huna): This is learned from 'Be'ulas Ba'al',
which can be read 'b'Olas Ba'al', in the elevation
of her husband.
2. (R. Elazar): We can learn from "She was the mother
of all living" - (motherhood, which includes
nursing) was given for life, not for pain.
(a) (Mishnah): If she brought a slave into the marriage ...
3) ONE WHO DESIRES FOOD MUST TASTE IT!
(b) We see, she must do the other chores.
1. Question: Why is she not exempt from all chores -
let her say, I brought a woman in my place!
(c) (Mishnah): If she brought 2 slaves, she neither cooks nor
2. Answer: The husband responds, she will serve me and
herself - who will serve you?
(d) Question: Why is she not exempt from all chores - let her
say, I brought 1 to serve me and herself, and one to
serve you and herself!
(e) Answer: The husband responds, who will serve the guests?
(f) (Mishnah): If she brought 3 slaves she does not make the
(g) Question: Why is she not exempt from all chores - let her
say, I brought another slave to serve the guests!
(h) Answer: The husband responds, when there are many in the
house, there are more guests.
(i) Question: If so, this applies even by 4 slaves!
(j) Answer: Once there are many slaves, they help each other.
(k) (R. Chana): Even if she did not bring a slave into the
marriage, rather property fitting to buy a slave, she is
exempted from chores.
1. (Beraisa): Money she saved the husband (from what he
must spend for her, such as cosmetics) is considered
as if she entered it into the marriage.
(l) (Mishnah): If she brought 4 slaves, she sits in an easy
(m) (R. Yitzchak Bar Chananya): Nevertheless, she mixes his
drink, sets his bed, and washes his hands, feet and face.
(n) (R. Yitzchak Bar Chananya): Whatever a wife does for a
husband, a Nidah does, except for mixing his drink,
setting his bed, and washing his hands, feet and face.
1. (Rava): Setting the bed is only forbidden in front
2. Shmuel's wife would serve his drink unnaturally,
with her left hand.
i. Abaye's wife would place it on top of a barrel.
ii. Rava's wife would place it at the head of his
iii. Rav Papa's wife would place it on a bench.
(a) (R. Yitzchak Bar Chananya): One may delay letting a
servant taste any food except for meat and wine.
1. (Rav Chisda): This only applies to fatty meat and
(b) (Rav Anan Bar Tachlifa): I was standing in front of
Shmuel, and they brought him a mushroom dish. Had I not
been given to taste, I would have been in danger.
2. (Rava): Fatty meat applies all year; old wine
applies only in summer.
(c) (Rav Ashi): I was standing in front of Rav Kahana, and
they brought him sliced turnips in vinegar. Had I not
been given to taste, I would have been in danger.
1. (Rav Papa): Even fat dates can pose a danger.
(d) Avuha Bar Ihi and Minyamin Bar Ihi - one allowed his
servant to taste all the dishes right away, the other let
him eat one now, and taste the rest after the meal.
Eliyahu would only speak with the former.
2. The rule is - anything with smell or vinegar must be
(e) 2 Chasidim - some say, they were Rav Mari and Rav
Pinchus, sons of Rav Chisda - Avuha Bar Ihi and Minyamin
Bar Ihi - one allowed his servant to taste before
himself, the other, after the guests left. Eliyahu would
only speak with the former.
(f) Ameimar, Mar Zutra and Rav Ashi were sitting at the
doorway of King Azgor. The king's waiters passed,
carrying his meal. Rav Ashi saw that Mar Zutra turned
(g) Rav Ashi stuck his finger in the food and put it to his
4) THE OBLIGATION TO SPIN WOOL
1. Waiters: You ruined his meal!
(h) A man proposed to engage a woman; she refused. He brought
a pomegranate, split it open and was eating it in front
of her. She salivated, and swallowed her saliva. He did
not give her; she became very sick and inflated.
2. Officers: Why did you do that?
3. Rav Ashi: People that do thusly, are not fit to
prepare food for the king.
4. Officers: Why not?
5. Rav Ashi: It contains leprous pork!
6. They checked the food, and did not find this to be
so. Rav Ashi took the cook's finger and stuck it on
a piece. 'Did you check this?'
7. They checked, and found that it was leprous.
8. Chachamim to Rav Ashi: Why did you rely on a
9. Rav Ashi: I saw a spirit of leprosy above Mar Zutra.
1. Man: If I cure you, will you marry me?
2. She agreed. He brought a pomegranate, split it open
and was eating it in front of her. She salivated; he
told her to spit out, until green came out of her,
and she was cured.
(a) (Mishnah): She spins wool ...
5) THE FREQUENCY OF MARITAL RELATIONS
(b) She spins wool, but not linen - the Mishnah is as R.
1. (Beraisa): He cannot force her to stand in front of
his father or son, nor to give straw to his animals,
but he can force her to give straw to his cattle;
2. R. Yehudah says, he can't even force her to spin
linen, since it ruins the mouth and elongates the
(c) (Mishnah - R. Eliezer): Even if she brings 100 slaves ...
i. This only applies to Roman linen.
(d) (Rav Malkiyo): The law is as R. Eliezer.
(e) (R. Chanina): The teachings regarding the roasting spit,
slaves and hair follicles were said by Rav Malkiyo;
1. Rav Malkiya said the teachings of Bloris (a pagan
rite of letting hair grow very long), ashes and
(f) (Rav Papa): Teachings relevant to Mishnayos were said by
1. Teachings relevant to Amoraic teachings were said by
(g) (Mishnah): R. Shimon Ben Gamliel says ...
2. The way to remember this - the Mishnayos are Malkesa
(h) Question: R. Eliezer also said, she must spin wool!
(i) Answer: They differ regarding playing with small dogs and
chess (these will lead to immorality, but not to
(a) (Mishnah): One who takes a vow forbidding relations with
his wife - Beis Shamai say, up to 2 weeks, he may stay
married; beyond this, he must divorce her and pay her
(b) Beis Hillel say, up to 1 week, he may stay married;
beyond this, he must divorce her and pay her Kesuvah;
(c) Chachamim may go to learn for 30 days without permission;
workers, for 1 week;
(d) R. Eliezer says, the Torah obligates a man to have
relations with his wife based on his occupation. Idle men
- daily; workers - twice a week; donkey-drivers - weekly;
camel-drivers - monthly; shipdrivers - once in 6 months.
(e) (Gemara) Question: Why do Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel
(f) Answer #1: Beis Shamai learn from a woman that gives
birth to a daughter - she may not have relations for 2
weeks; Beis Hillel learn from one who has a boy, she is
forbidden for 1 week.
1. Objection: Beis Hillel should also learn from the
birth of a girl, sometimes a woman is forbidden for
(g) Answer #2: Beis Hillel learn from Nidah.
2. Retraction: True - if Beis Hillel learned from one
who gave birth, they would learn as Beis Shamai.
1. Beis Hillel learn what is common (vows result from
anger, which is common) from what is common; Beis
Shamai learn what results from the man (the vow)
from birth, which is due to the man.
(h) (Rav): They argue when he specified the duration of the
vow - by a Stam (unspecified) vow, all agree he must
immediately divorce her and pay a Kesuvah.
(i) (Shmuel): Even by a Stam vow, she must wait 1 or 2 weeks,
perhaps he will find an opening to annul his vow.
(j) Question: Rav and Shmuel already argued similarly!
1. (Mishnah): One who vows that his wife should not
benefit from him - up to 30 days, he gets someone to
finance her; beyond this, he must divorce her and
pay her Kesuvah.
(k) Answer: It is necessary to teach the argument of Rav and
Shmuel in both places.
i. (Rav): This applies when he specified the
duration of the vow - by a Stam vow, he must
immediately divorce her and pay a Kesuvah.
ii. (Shmuel): Even by a Stam vow, she must wait 30
days, perhaps he will find an opening to annul
1. If it was only taught here - we would say, here Rav
says he must immediately divorce her (by a Stam vow)
since no one can supply her in his place - but
there, he would admit to Shmuel.
(l) (Mishnah): Chachamim can go to learn ...
2. If it was only taught there - we would think, Shmuel
only said there, to wait (since a third party can
finance her), but here he would admit to Rav.
(m) Question: If they received permission - there is no limit
how long they can learn!