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KESUVOS 75-80 - dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in loving
memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger. Mr Irving
Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner and is sorely
missed by all who knew him. His Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan.
1) EXPENDITURES ON THE WIFE'S PROPERTY
(a) Answer #2 (R. Aba): Even crushed dates.
2) A HUSBAND'S JURISDICTION OVER HIS WIFE'S FIELD
(b) Question (Rav Bivi): Are the remnants of dates (after
making beer) sufficient?
1. This question is unresolved.
(c) Question: If the food is not eaten honorably, what is the
(d) Answer #1 (An Amora in Eretz Yisrael): The value of an
(e) Answer #2 (A different Amora in Eretz Yisrael): The value
of a Dinar.
(f) (Judges of Pumbadisa): A case occurred, and Rav Yehudah
considered vine branches (fed to an elephant) as
1. This is consistent with another teaching of Rav
(g) (R. Yakov): One that spends money to upkeep the property
of his wife who is a minor (and married only mid'Rabanan)
is as one that spends on the property of a stranger.
i. (Rav Yehudah): A buyer of land that ate (used
branches) from a field of Orla, Kilayim, or in
the Shemitah year - this counts as a year of
eating to establish that the land is his.
1. This was an enactment to encourage him to upkeep her
(h) A woman inherited 400 Zuz in Bei Chuzoy. Her husband
spent 600 Zuz on the trip to get the money; on the way,
he needed 1 Zuz of the inheritance, and used it.
1. R. Ami: The Mishnah teaches - since he spent and
ate, there is no compensation.
(i) (Mishnah): He swears how much he spent, and receives.
2. Chachamim: That only applies when he eats profits of
her property - here, he took from the principle!
3. R. Ami: If so, it is as if he did not eat; he swears
how much he spent, and receives.
(j) R. Asi: This applies when her property improved as much
as he spent.
(k) Question: What does this teach?
(l) Answer #1 (Abaye): If the improvement exceeded the
expense, he receives his expenditures without an oath.
1. Objection (Rava): If so, he may come to scheme (and
claim expenditures almost as much as the
(m) Answer #2 (Rava): Rather, if the expenditures exceeded
the improvement, he only receives as much as the
improvement, with an oath.
(a) A husband hired a sharecropper to work on his wife's
field in his stead.
1. Question: Does the sharecropper expect to get paid
from the husband's rights to the fruit - and
therefore, if the husband gets no compensation (e.g.
he divorces his wife, after having eaten something),
neither does the sharecropper?
(b) Question (Rava Bar Rav Chanan): Why is this different
from one who spends money on a stranger's field, without
permission - there, we evaluate the improvement, and he
receives the lesser of his expenditures and the
2. Or, does he consider himself to be working on the
field - no matter who gets the fruit, the land
stands to be worked by a sharecropper!
(c) Answer: There, no one else would have improved the field;
here, if not for the sharecropper, the husband would have
worked the field.
1. Question: What was the answer to our original
(d) Question: What happens if a husband sold his right to eat
the fruit of his wife's property?
2. Answer (Rav Huna Brei d'R. Yehoshua): If the husband
is a sharecropper - if he leaves without
compensation, so does the sharecropper; if the
husband is not a sharecropper, the land was standing
to be worked by a sharecropper in any case (and he
1. Do we say - what he owns, he sold!
2. Or - perhaps Chachamim only enacted that he eat the
fruit, in order that there will be more food in the
house, and the wife will benefit.
(e) Answer #1 (Mar Bar Mereimar, citing Rava): The sale
3) WHO INHERITS A SHOMERES YAVAM
(f) Answer #2 (Rav Papa, citing Rava): The sale is void.
1. Rav Papa: Mar Bar Mereimar did not hear Rava say the
sale stands - he inferred that Rava holds that way.
(g) The law is, the sale is void.
i. A woman brought 2 slaves into her marriage. Her
husband married a 2nd wife, and gave 1 slave to
serve the 2nd wife. The 1st wife complained to
Rava; Rava did not heed her.
2. Rav Papa: That is wrong! The husband eats fruit in
order to improve the standard of living in the house
- and this is fulfilled, even if the slave serves
the other wife!
ii. The one who saw this thought that Rava did not
heed her because the husband may sell the
fruits of his wife's property.
(h) Question: Why is the sale void?
(i) Answer #1 (Abaye): We are concerned that the buyer will
decrease the value of the property.
(j) Answer #2 (Rava): There will not be enough improvement in
the standard of living in the house.
(k) Question: What is the practical difference between these
(l) Answer #1: The field is close to the city (they can see
if the buyer is harming the property).
(m) Answer #2: The husband will work the property as a
sharecropper (again, we are not concerned for damage to
(n) Answer #3: The husband will invest the money paid for the
fruit (there will be enough improvement in the standard
(a) (Mishnah): A Shomeres Yavam (a Yevamah awaiting Yibum or
Chalitzah) inherited property. Beis Shamai and Beis
Hillel agree that she may sell or give it as a gift;
(b) Question: If she dies, who inherits her Kesuvah, and the
property that enters and leaves with her (Melug)?
1. Beis Shamai says, the heirs of the husband split it
with the heirs of her father;
(c) If his brother left money, it is used to buy land, and
the Yavam eats the fruit; if his brother left detached
fruit, it is used to buy land, and the Yavam eats the
2. Beis Hillel say, the property is in its Chazakah;
the Kesuvah stays by the heirs of the husband, the
Melug property stays by the heirs of her father.
(d) If his brother left attached fruit, R. Meir says, we
evaluate how much this increases the value of the land;
this amount is used to buy land, and the Yavam eats the
(e) Chachamim say, attached fruit belongs to the Yavam;
detached fruit, whoever takes it first merits it;
1. If the Yavam takes it, he keeps it; if the Yevamah
takes it, it is used to buy land, and the Yavam eats
(f) If he does Yibum, she is as his wife in all respects,
just that her Kesuvah is paid from the property of the
(g) (The Yavam) should not tell her, 'Your Kesuvah is on the
table' - rather, there is a lien on all his property to
pay the Kesuvah;
1. Similarly, a man should not tell his wife, 'Your
Kesuvah is on the table' - rather, there is a lien
on all his property to pay the Kesuvah;
(h) If (the Yavam) divorces her, she only collects her
Kesuvah; if he remarries her, she is as any other woman,
and only has her Kesuvah.
(i) (Gemara) Question: If a Shomeres Yavam dies - who buries
1. The husband's heirs bury her, since they inherit her
(j) Answer (Rav Amram - Beraisa): If a Shomeres Yavam dies,
her heirs, which inherit her Kesuvah must bury her.
2. Or perhaps her father's heirs bury her, since they
inherit her Melug property.