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MENACHOS 25 - anonymously dedicated by an Ohev Torah and Marbitz Torah in
Baltimore, Maryland, formerly of Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.
1) "RITZUY TZITZ"
(a) (Mishnah): If the Kometz became Tamei and it was offered,
the Tzitz is Meratzeh (is Machshir the Minchah and
permits the Shirayim to be eaten);
2) WHEN THE "TZITZ" IS NOT "MERATZEH"
(b) If the Kometz left the Azarah and was offered, the Tzitz
is not Meratzeh;
1. The Tzitz is Meratzeh for Tum'ah, not for Yotzei.
(c) (Gemara - Beraisa) Question: "V'Nasa Aharon Es Avon
ha'Kodoshim" - what sin does (the Tzitz) bear?
1. It cannot be Pigul, we learn that from "Lo
Yechashev"! (Here (and in some other places)
Chachamim call Chutz li'Mkomo 'Pigul', even though
one is not Chayav Kares for eating it.)
(d) Answer: It bears the sin of Tum'ah, for Tum'ah is wholly
permitted to the Tzibur.
2. It cannot be Nosar, we learn that from "Lo
Yeratzeh"! (Here, this refers to what the Torah
calls Pigul, i.e. a Korban offered with intention to
*eat it when it is* Nosar, i.e. Chutz li'Zmano,),
(e) Question (R. Zeira): Why not say that it bears the sin of
Yotzei, for this is wholly permitted on a Bamah!
(f) Answer (Abaye): "L'Ratzon Lahem Lifnei Hash-m" - the
Tzitz is Meratzeh for a sin in front of Hash-m, Yotzei is
not in front of Hash-m.
(g) Question (R. Ila'a): Why not say that it bears the sin of
Smol (Avodah using the left hand), for this is wholly
permitted on Yom Kipur (the Kohen Gadol carries the spoon
with incense in his left hand)!
(h) Answer #1 (Abaye): It says "Avon" - the Tzitz is Meratzeh
for something that is always forbidden, but is Nidcheh
(permitted, b'Diavad) to the Tzibur - Smol is used
l'Chatchilah on Yom Kipur.
(i) Answer #2 (Rav Ashi): The Tzitz bears "Avon ha'Kodoshim",
not sin of the Makdishim (people, who did the Avodah).
(j) Question (R. Simi): Why not say that it bears the sin of
a (Korban) Ba'al Mum, for this is wholly permitted in
1. Zevachim must be unblemished and (sometimes) must be
male, in birds we are never concerned for these.
(k) Answer (Rav Ashi): "(A Ba'al Mum) Lo Yeratzeh" - it will
not be accepted.
(a) (Beraisa #1): If the blood became Tamei and Zerikah was
1. If it was b'Shogeg, it is Meratzeh; if b'Mezid, Lo
2. This applies to a Korban Yachid - a Korban Tzibur is
Meratzeh even b'Mezid.
3. The Korban of a Nochri is not Meratzeh even
(b) Contradiction (Beraisa #2): The Tzitz is Meratzeh for
(Tum'ah of) blood, meat and Chelev that became Tamei,
whether b'Shogeg or b'Mezid or b'Ones, for a Korban
Yachid or a Korban Tzibur.
(c) Answer #1 (Rav Yosef): Our Beraisa is like Chachamim,
that Beraisa is R. Yosi:
1. (Beraisa): It is forbidden to separate Tamei produce
to be Terumah on (to exempt) Tahor produce;
(d) Objection: Granted, R. Yosi does not fine one who
separated Tamei Terumah - but he does not hold that the
Tzitz is Meratzeh for (Tamei) food (e.g. to consider it
is as if had Sha'as ha'Kosher, to Mechayev eating it
i. If this was done b'Shogeg, it becomes Terumah;
if it was done b'Mezid, it is not Terumah;
2. R. Yosi says, whether it was done b'Shogeg or
b'Mezid, it becomes Terumah.
1. (Beraisa - R. Eliezer): The Tzitz is Meratzeh for
(e) Answer: We must switch the opinions of R. Eliezer and R.
2. R. Yosi says, it is not Meratzeh for food.
(f) Objection (Rav Sheshes): We cannot switch the opinions!
1. (Beraisa) Suggestion: Perhaps if a Tamei person ate
Tamei Kodshim *before Zerikah* he is liable!
(g) Resolution #2 (to contradiction (b) - Rav Chisda):
Beraisa #1 is Chachamim, Beraisa #2 is R. Eliezer.
2. Rejection: "Kol Tahor Yochal Basar" - one is liable
for eating Kodesh meat b'Tum'ah only if it was once
permitted to Tahor people.
3. Suggestion: Perhaps one is liable for eating
(b'Tum'ah) Kodshim that is (at the time) permitted
to Tehorim - this would exclude Lan and Yotzei!
4. Rejection: "Asher la'Sh-m" includes these.
5. Suggestion: Perhaps we include Pigul and Nosar!
i. Objection: Nosar is Lan, we already included
6. Correction: Rather, perhaps we include Pigul, just
7. Rejection: "Mi'Zevach ha'Shelamim" excludes (Pigul).
8. Question: (The verses that include and exclude do
not specify what to include or exclude -) why do we
include Lan and Nosar, and exclude Pigul?
9. Answer: We include Lan and Nosar, for they had
Sha'as ha'Kosher (they were once permitted) - Pigul
never had Sha'as ha'Kosher.
10. Question: Why is a Tamei liable for eating *after
Zerikah* Kodesh that became Tamei before Zerikah (it
was never permitted to Tehorim!)
11. Answer: The Tzitz is Meratzeh (it is as if the meat
was once permitted);
i. This is only if the meat became Tamei, not if
it was Yotzei.
12. Question: Which Tana holds that Zerikah does not
help for Yotzei (it is as if there was no Sha'as
13. Answer: It is R. Eliezer.
14. Culmination of objection: This Beraisa is R.
Eliezer, and it says that the Tzitz is Meratzeh for
(h) Question: Granted, R. Eliezer says that the Tzitz is
Meratzeh for food - this does not show that he does not
make a fine that it is not Meratzeh for Mezid in a Korban
(i) Answer: Indeed, we know that he says this, just like R.
1. (Beraisa - R. Eliezer): Whether it was done b'Shogeg
or b'Mezid, it becomes Terumah.
(j) Question: Granted, R. Eliezer does not fine regarding
Terumah - but Kodshim are more stringent, perhaps he
fines regarding Kodshim!
(k) Answer: If so, Beraisa #2 is unlike any Tana we know (we
do not widen the argument and assume that it is like a
Tana whose opinion we never heard elsewhere unless we are
(l) Resolution #3 (to contradiction (b) - Ravina): Beraisa #2
discusses how it became Tamei (the Tzitz is Meratzeh even
for Mezid), Beraisa #1 discusses the intent during
Zerikah (there is Ritzuy for a Korban Yachid only if it
(m) Resolution #4 (Rav Shila): Beraisa #1 discusses how it
became Tamei, Beraisa #2 discusses the intent during
(n) Question (against Rav Shila - Beraisa #2): The Tzitz is
Meratzeh for blood, meat and Chelev that became Tamei,
whether b'Shogeg or b'Mezid...
(o) Answer: It means, if they became Tamei b'Shogeg, the
Tzitz is Meratzeh whether the Zerikah was b'Shogeg or
(p) Question (against Rav Shila - Beraisa #1): If the blood
became Tamei and Zerikah was done - if it was b'Shogeg,
it is Meratzeh; if b'Mezid, Lo Hurtzeh.
(q) Answer: It means, if the blood became Tamei and Zerikah
was done, whether Zerikah was b'Shogeg or b'Mezid:
1. If it became Tamei b'Shogeg the Tzitz is Meratzeh;
if b'Mezid, Lo Hurtzeh.