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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) "TENUFAH" OF "SHELAMIM"
(a) (Continuation of Beraisa): Question: How is Tenufah (of
2) "TENUFAH" OF "SHTEI HA'LECHEM"
(b) Answer: The Eimurim (Chelev, Yoseres ha'Kaved and
kidneys) are put on the hand, the chest and foreleg are
put on top of them;
1. The bread is always on top.
(c) Question: (Bread is not brought with (regular) Shelamim
-) what does this refer to?
(d) Answer (Rav Papa): It refers to the Milu'im. (Shitah
Mekubetzes - he did not say Ayl Nazir or Todah (even
though those apply for all generations), for those are
learned from the Milu'im.)
(e) Question: Why are the chest and foreleg on top of the
(f) Answer: We learn from "Shok ha'Terumah va'Chaze
ha'Tenufah Al Ishei ha'Chalavim Yavi'u Lehanif Tenufah".
(g) Question: It also says "Es ha'Chelev Asher Al he'Chazeh
Yevi'enu" (the Chelev is on top!)
(h) Answer (Abaye): The latter verse discusses when the Kohen
brings them from the place of slaughter, and flips them
over (into the hands of another Kohen.)
(i) Question: It also says "Va'Yasimu Es ha'Chalavim Al
(j) Answer: The second Kohen flips them over into the hands
of a third Kohen, who is Maktir them. (Griz asks, only
the Chelev is Huktar!)
1. The verses teach that three Kohanim are used, such
Avodah is more honorable - "B'Rav Am Hadras Melech."
(a) (Mishnah): Shtei ha'Lechem and the two Kivsei Atzeres...
3) "TENUFAH" OF "SHALMEI TZIBUR"
(b) (Beraisa) Suggestion: "V'Henif ha'Kohen Osam Al Lechem
ha'Bikurim" - perhaps the lambs are on top of the loaves.
(c) Rejection: "Al Shnei Kevasim".
(d) Suggestion: Perhaps this teaches that the loaves are on
top of the lambs!
(e) Contradiction: "Al Lechem ha'Bikurim" - the verse
contradicts itself, we do not know which must be on top!
(f) Answer #1: We do as is done elsewhere, the bread is on
1. Question: Where do we find that the bread is on top?
(g) Answer #2 (Continuation of Beraisa - R. Yosi ben
ha'Meshulam): No, the lambs are on top.
2. Answer (Rav Papa): In the Milu'im it was on top.
1. Question: How do we fulfill "Al Shnei Kevasim"?
(h) Answer #3 (R. Chanina ben Chakinai): The loaves are
placed between the thighs (one thigh is above them, the
other below) during Tenufah, fulfilling both verses.
2. Answer: This (does not teach which is on top, it)
merely excludes the seven Olos lambs brought with
Shtei ha'Lechem (they are not waved.)
(i) Objection (Rebbi): One would not do this to bread to be
served to a mortal king, all the more so in Avodas
(j) Answer #4 (Rebbi): Rather, the bread and lambs are waved
side by side.
(k) Question: This does not fulfill (either part of the verse
that says) "Al"!
(l) Answer (Rav Chisda or Rav Hamnuna): This is as Rebbi
holds elsewhere, that "Al" means 'near':
1. (Beraisa - Rebbi): "V'Nasata *Al* ha'Ma'areches (of
Lechem ha'Panim) Levonah Zakah" - it is nearby.
(m) (Mishnah): He waves them outward and back, up and down...
2. Suggestion: Perhaps it literally means 'on'!
3. Rejection: "V'Sakosa *Al* ha'Aron Es ha'Paroches"
(we know that the Paroches was not over the Aron,
surely) this means 'near'.
(n) (R. Chiya bar Aba): He waves them outward and back (in
all four directions) - to Hash-m, Owner of the four
directions; he waves them up and down - to the Owner of
Heaven and earth;
(o) (Rav Chama bar Ukva): He waves them outward and back -
(asking Hash-m to) withhold bad winds; he waves them up
and down - to withhold bad dew.
(p) (R. Yosi bar Rav Avin): This teaches that even a Mitzvah
that is not Me'akev withholds punishments;
1. Tenufah is not Me'akev, yet it withholds bad winds
and bad dew.
(q) (Rabah): Also Lulav is shaken (with the other three
species) in this way.
(r) Rav Acha bar Yakov shook it this way and said 'Satan,
this is an arrow in your eye!'
1. This was wrong - one should not taunt the Satan,
lest this arouse the Satan to prosecute against him
more than usual.
(a) (Beraisa - Rebbi): Shalmei Tzibur have Tenufah
(mi'Chayim, as the Torah explicitly says, and) after
slaughter, they are waved whole;
(b) Chachamim say, (after slaughter) only the chest and
foreleg are waved.
(c) Question: What do they argue about?
(d) Answer #1 (Rav Chisda or Rav Hamnuna): Chachamim hold Dun
Minah u'Minah (when a matter is learned from another
matter, we learn everything from the source); Rebbi
holds, Dun Minah v'Uki b'Asra (we only learn one law from
the source, other laws are according to the law of the
matter being learned);
1. Chachamim learn from (regular) Shelamim that Tenufah
is done after slaughter - they also learn from there
that only chest and foreleg are waved;
2. Rebbi also learns Tenufah after slaughter from
Shelamim - however, he learns what is waved from
Shalmei Tzibur themselves (while alive, obviously
the entire animal is waved.)
(e) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): Rebbi also holds Dun Minah u'Minah;
1. He learns from Shelamim that we wave the portion
given to the Kohen (there, only the chest and
foreleg is given, but Shalmei Tzibur are totally
eaten by Kohanim.)
(f) Answer #3 (Ravina): Even Chachamim hold Dun Minah v'Uki
1. They expound "Shalmeihem" to include the entire
(g) (Mishnah - R. Shimon): There are three Korbanos and three
Mitzvos, exactly two Mitzvos apply to each of the
1. A regular Shelamim has Semichah mi'Chayim (while the
Korban is alive) and Tenufah after slaughter, but
not Tenufah mi'Chayim;
(h) Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that (regular)
Shelamim requires Tenufah mi'Chayim!
2. Shalmei Tzibur have Tenufah mi'Chayim and after
slaughter, but not Semichah;
3. Asham Metzora has Semichah and Tenufah mi'Chayim,
but not after slaughter.
1. Shalmei Tzibur do not require Semichah, yet they
require Tenufah mi'Chayim - Shelamim requires
Semichah, all the more so it should require Tenufah
(i) Rejection: Regarding Shalmei Tzibur it says "Osam" - they
require Tenufah mi'Chayim, regular Shelamim do not.
(j) Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that Shalmei
Tzibur require Semichah (which is always) mi'Chayim!
1. Shelamim does not require Tenufah mi'Chayim, yet it
requires Semichah- Shalmei Tzibur require Tenufah
mi'Chayim, all the more so they should require
(k) Rejection (Ravina): A tradition from Sinai teaches that
only two Korbanos Tzibur require Semichah (Par He'elam
Davar and Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach).
(l) Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that Asham
Metzora requires Tenufah after slaughter!
1. Shelamim do not require Tenufah mi'Chayim, yet they
require Tenufah after slaughter - Asham Metzora
requires Tenufah mi'Chayim, all the more so it
should require Tenufah after slaughter!
(m) Rejection: Regarding Shelamim it says "Oso" - it requires
Tenufah after slaughter, Asham Metzora does not.
(n) (Beraisa): If five people brought one Korban, one of them
does Tenufah on behalf of all of them;
1. The Kohen does Tenufah on behalf of a woman or one
who sent his Korban with a Shali'ach from overseas.