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1) "BELILAH" AND "MESHICHAH"
(a) (Mishnah - Rebbi): Belilah is done after the Minchah is
baked into Chalos; Chachamim say, while it is Soles.
2) WHICH "MENACHOS" REQUIRE "PETISAH"
(b) (Beraisa): "Soles Belulah" - this teaches that Belilah is
done while it is Soles;
1. Rebbi says, Belilah is done when it is Chalos -
"Chalos (Matzos) Belulos".
(c) Question: Why do Chachamim say that it is impossible to
do Belilah with Chalos?
2. Chachamim: Regarding Lachmei Todah it also says
"Chalos Belulos", even though Belilah cannot be done
when they are Chalos, it must be while it is Soles!
i. The procedure - first oil is put in the Kli,
then the Soles, then more oil, we mix, knead,
bake them, we break up the Chalos and put on
oil (Yetzikah), Kemitzah is done;
3. Rebbi says, Belilah is done when they are Chalos;
i. The procedure - oil is put in the Kli, then the
Soles, we knead, bake them, we break up the
Chalos and put on oil, we mix, more oil is put
on, Kemitzah is done.
(d) Answer (R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): Only a quarter
(Rashi Kesav Yad - of the half-Log for all the Lachmei
Todah; Rashi - a quarter Log) of oil is not enough to mix
with the Chalos Matzos (made from over three Esronim of
Soles - baked Chalos are dry and absorb much oil.)
(e) (Mishnah): Chalos require Belilah, Rekikim require
(f) (Beraisa): Chalos require Belilah, Rekikim do not require
1. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that
Rekikim require Belilah!
(g) Rekikim require Meshichah, Chalos do not require
i. Chalos do not require Meshichah, yet they
require Belilah - Rekikim require Meshichah,
all the more so they should require Belilah!
2. Rejection: "Chalos Belulos" - but Rekikim are not
1. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that Chalos
(h) Question: How does "Chalos Belulos" teach that Rekikim
are not Belulos, and how does: "Rekikim Meshuchos" teach
that Chalos are not Meshuchos?
i. Rekikim do not require Belilah, yet they
require Meshichah - Chalos require Belilah, all
the more so they should require Meshichah!
2. Rejection: "Rekikim Meshuchos" - but Chalos are not
(i) Answer (Rava): In many places the Torah says "Chalos
Belulos" and "Rekikim Meshuchos" - if Rekikim required
Belilah (or if Chalos required Meshichah), at least once
the Torah should have said 'Rekikim Belulos' (or 'Chalos
(j) (Mishnah): Meshichah is done like 'Chai', the rest of the
oil is eaten...
(k) Question: What does it mean like 'Chai'?
(l) Answer: It is like the Greek letter 'Chai' ('X'; Tosfos
brings other opinions).
(m) (Beraisa): If a Minchah is half Rekikim and half Chalos
(R. Shimon (63A) permits this), one brings a Log of oil,
half is mixed with the Chalos, half is used for Meshichah
of the Rekikim.
1. Meshichah is done on the entire Rekikim, the
leftover oil is added to the oil to be mixed with
(n) (Beraisa): If a Minchah is entirely Rekikim, one brings a
Log of oil, he keeps doing Meshichah until all the oil is
2. R. Shimon ben Yehudah citing R. Shimon says,
Meshichah is like 'Chai', the rest of the oil is
eaten by Kohanim.
(o) R. Shimon ben Yehudah citing R. Shimon says, Meshichah is
like 'Chai', the rest is eaten by Kohanim.
(a) (Mishnah): All Menachos that are cooked in a Kli require
Petisah (breaking it into pieces.)
(b) (Gemara) Question: ('All Menachos that are cooked in a
Kli') - what does this come to exclude?
(c) Answer (Rav Papa): It excludes Shtei ha'Lechem and Lechem
(d) (Beraisa): "Pasos Osah Pitim...*Minchah*" - this comes to
include all Menachos for the law of Petisah;
1. Suggestion: Perhaps we include even Shtei ha'Lechem
and Lechem ha'Panim!
(e) "V'Yatzakta (Aleha) Shemen Minchah" - this comes to
include all Menachos for the law of Yetzikah;
2. Rejection: "Osah" (it - others do not require
1. Suggestion: Perhaps we include Ma'afe Tanur!
(f) Question: How do we know to exclude Ma'afe Tanur -
perhaps we exclude Minchas Kohanim instead!
2. Rejection: "Aleha" - on it, not on others.
3. Suggestion: Perhaps we only exclude (one kind of
Ma'afe Tanur, e.g.) Rekikim!
4. Rejection: "Hi" is another exclusion.
(g) Answer (Rabah): One Mi'ut would suffice for Minchas
Kohanim - since there are two, we use them for the two
kinds of Ma'afe Tanur.
(a) (Mishnah): To do Petisah of Minchas Yisrael, each Chalah
is folded into two, then into four, and it is broken
(into four parts);
4) BREAD CRUMBS
(b) Minchas Kohen is folded into two and then four, it is not
(c) Chavitei Kohen Gadol are not folded.
(d) R. Shimon says, Petisah does not apply to Minchas Kohanim
and Chavitim, for Kemitzah is not done;
1. Whenever there is no Kemitzah, there is no Petisah.
(Rashba - R. Shimon expounds according to reasoning,
Petisah is only for the sake of Kemitzah.)
(e) Petisah of any Minchah is until the pieces are the size
(f) (Gemara - Beraisa) Suggestion: "Pasos" - perhaps each
Chalah is broken into only two pieces!
1. Rejection: "Pitim" (this teaches another two.)
(g) (Continuation of Beraisa): Minchas Kohen and Chavitim are
2. Suggestion: Perhaps "Pitim" teaches that it should
3. Rejection: "Osah" - it (a Chalah) is broken into
pieces, the pieces are not broken into pieces!
4. Resolution: It is folded into two, then into four,
and it is broken.
(h) Contradiction (Mishnah): Chavitim are not folded.
(i) Resolution (Rava): They are folded in half, they are not
folded into four.
(j) (Mishnah - R. Shimon): Petisah does not apply to Minchas
Kohanim and Chavitim...
(a) (Rav Yosef): If Chavitzah (Rashi - a food cooked with
bread crumbs; Tosfos - bread crumbs stuck together via a
liquid) contains a pieces the size of an olive, its
blessing (before eating it) is ha'Motzi;
1. If all the pieces are less than a k'Zayis, one
blesses Borei Minei Mezonos.
(b) Rav Yosef: I learn from a Beraisa:
1. (Beraisa): If a Kohen (Rashi Kesav Yad - Yisrael)
was offering a Minchah for the first time (in his
life; alternatively, the first time this year, i.e.
from Chadash), he blesses Shehecheyanu;
(c) Question (Abaye): Tana d'vei R. Yishmael says that they
are broken very finely, like flour - surely, Kohanim
would bless ha'Motzi!
2. If he eats it, he blesses ha'Motzi.
3. (Mishnah): Petisah of any Minchah is until the
pieces are the size of olives.
1. Suggestion: Perhaps they do not bless ha'Motzi!
(d) Answer #1: The case is, he combined them into one mass.
2. Rejection (Beraisa #1): If one gathered (altogether)
a k'Zayis of bread crumbs (Tosfos - of the five
grains) and ate it (on Pesach)"
i. If they are Matzah, he fulfills his obligation
(to eat Lechem Oni on the first night);
ii. If they are Chametz, he is Chayav Kares.
(e) Objection (a Beraisa explaining Beraisa #1): This is when
he ate them within Kdei Achilas Pras (the time to eat
half a loaf).
1. If he combined them into one mass, it should say
(f) Answer #2: The case is, (a k'Zayis of) the loaf (from
which the crumbs came) is still intact. (Since it retains
its importance and its blessing, its crumbs retain their
(g) Question: What was the conclusion?
(h) Answer (Rav Sheshes): One blesses ha'Motzi even on crumbs
less than a k'Zayis.
(i) (Rava): This is only if they still look like bread.