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MENACHOS 96-99 - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs.
Estanne Abraham Fawer to honor the fourth Yahrzeit of her father, Reb
Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Weiner), who passed away 18 Teves 5760. May the
merit of supporting and advancing Talmud study during the week of his
Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.
1) PLACEMENT OF "SHTEI HA'LECHEM" ON THE "SHULCHAN"
(a) (Mishnah): The kneading, Arichah and baking of Chavitei
Kohen Gadol is done inside, they are Docheh Shabbos;
2) THE "SHULCHAN" IS "MEKADESH" ITS AIRSPACE
(b) Grinding the wheat and sifting it is not Docheh Shabbos.
(c) R. Akiva says, the general rule is, only those things
that cannot be done before Shabbos are Docheh Shabbos.
(d) Everything done to Menachos, (kneading and Arichah) is in
a Kli Shares inside, nothing is done outside.
(e) Shtei ha'Lechem are seven Tefachim long, four Tefachim
wide, the 'horns' (protrusions from the corners) are four
(f) Lechem ha'Panim is 10 Tefachim long, five Tefachim wide,
its horns are seven Etzba'os.
(g) R. Yehudah says, the way to remember is 'ZeDaD-YeHaZ'
(the Gematri'a of these letters is 7-4-4, 10-5-7.)
(h) Ben Zoma says, "V'Nasata Al ha'Shulchan Lechem Panim
Lefanai Tamid" - the bread has Panim (walls;
alternatively - corners, i.e. horns.)
(i) R. Yehudah says, the Shulchan is 10 Tefachim long, five
Tefachim wide, just like Lechem ha'Panim; the length of
each loaf runs along the width of the Shulchan, extra two
and a half Tefachim on each end of the loaf were (already
from when it was formed into a loaf) bent (upwards,
leaving five Tefachim in the middle), the loaves exactly
cover the width of the Shulchan. (There are two piles,
they exactly cover the length of the Shulchan.)
(j) R. Meir says, the Shulchan is 12 Tefachim by six, Lechem
ha'Panim is 10 by five; their length is along the width
of the Shulchan, the extra two Tefachim on each end are
bent, the loaves exactly cover the width of the Shulchan;
1. The middle two Tefachim of the (length of the)
Shulchan were empty, to allow ventilation so the
bread would not become moldy.
(k) There were four golden Snifim, Mefutzalim, to hold the
piles, two Snifim for each pile;
2. Aba Sha'ul says, the Bazichei Levonah were placed in
those two Tefachim.
3. Chachamim: "V'Nasata *Al* ha'Ma'areches Levonah
Zakah" - it must be *on* the piles of bread!
4. Aba Sha'ul: It says "V'*Al*av Mate Menasheh"!
(Clearly, they did not stand on top of Shevet
Efrayim, 'Al' merely connotes 'near'.)
(l) There were 14 poles for each pile (three (or two) between
each bread and the one above it), like hollow half-reeds,
the arrangement and removal of the poles is not Docheh
1. Rather, on Erev Shabbos the poles are removed from
the breads, the poles (Rashba - the breads) are left
(Tosfos - on the floor) along the length of the
Shulchan. (On Motzei Shabbos the poles are inserted
between the new breads.)
(m) All Kelim in the Mikdash are placed lengthwise towards
the length of the Mikdash (east-west.)
(n) (Gemara - Mishnah): Everything done to Menachos is done
in a Kli Shares inside.
(o) Question: What is the source of this?
(p) Answer (Rebbi): "...Ha'Makom Asher Yevashlu Sham
ha'Kohanim Es ha'Asham v'Es ha'Chatas Asher Yofu Es
ha'Minchah l'Vilti Hotzi El he'Chatzer ha'Chitzonah" -
Minchah is like Asham and Chatas, just like they must be
cooked in Klei Shares, also Minchah (must be baked in a
(a) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): The Shulchan is 10 Tefachim
(b) (R. Yochanan): According to R. Yehudah, each loaf is
folded two and a half Tefachim, the Shulchan is Mekadesh
15 Tefachim above its surface (the height of the six
loaves in each pile); according to R. Meir, each loaf is
folded two Tefachim, it is Mekadesh 12 Tefachim above its
surface. (It is not Mekadesh them to be offered, only to
(c) Question: The top bread is higher than this, he did not
account for the thickness of the poles!
(d) Answer: There are indentations in the bread into which
the poles fit, they do not raise the bread.
(e) Question: The sole purpose of the poles is to allow
ventilation so the bread would not become moldy - if
there is no space between the breads, they will become
(f) Answer: They raise the bread a small amount.
(g) Question: In any case, why does R. Yochanan ignore that
(h) Answer: Since the (five) spaces between the breads add up
to less than a Tefach, he did not bother to mention it.
(i) Question: The Shulchan is also Mekadesh the Bazichim,
they rest on the top bread, this is more than 15 (or 12
and a half) Tefachim above the Shulchan!
(j) Answer: The Bazichim rest *inside* the bread, not on top
(k) Question: There were corners on top of the bread, this
adds to the height!
(l) Answer: The corners do not point upwards, rather,
inwards, the bread above it rests on them.
(m) Question: The breads rest on the Misgeret (rim) around
the Shulchan, this adds to the height!
3) A REVERSIBLE TABLETOP
(n) Answer #1: R. Yochanan's teaching is according to the
opinion that the rim is below (the top surface of the
(o) Answer #2: According to the opinion that the rim is
above, it slopes outward, so the bread rests on the
(p) Tana'im argue about where the rim was.
1. (Beraisa - R. Yosi): There were no Snifin (Sefas
Emes - i.e. they were distanced from the Shulchan),
the rim (above) holds the (bottom) bread in place.
2. Chachamim: The rim was below.
(a) (R. Yochanan): According to Chachamim, the rim was below
- we learn from this that a reversible table (it may be
flipped over and used) is Tamei (i.e. Mekabel Tum'ah.
Rashi - Normally, Klei Etz (wooden vessels) without an
interior are Tehorim - since the Shulchan is wide, it is
fitting for Medras (to sit or lie on), therefore it is
Tamei. Tosfos - since a table services people and
vessels, it is Tamei);
(b) According to R. Yosi, the rim was above, we do not know
the law of a reversible table (we cannot learn from the
Shulchan, it had an interior.)
(c) Question: This implies that the Shulchan is Mekabel
Tum'ah - it is a Kli Etz made to be stationary, such
vessels are Tehorim!
1. Question: What is the reason?
(d) Answer: Reish Lakish teaches that the Shulchan is moved
even when it is full:
2. Answer: The Torah equates them to Sak (a vessel of
sackcloth, which is Mekabel Tum'ah) - just like Sak
is moved when empty and full, also wooden vessels
are Tamei only if they are moved when empty and
1. (Reish Lakish) Question: What do we learn from "Al
(e) Question: Why does Tum'ah of the Shulchan depend on being
moved - it is covered with gold!
2. Answer: (It is Tamei because it is moved -) this
teaches that they would hold up the Shulchan on the
festivals, when everyone comes to the Mikdash, and
say 'See your dearness to Hash-m!'
i. (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): A great miracle was
done with Lechem ha'Panim - it was as warm (or
fresh) when taken off the Shulchan as it was
when placed on it a week earlier - "Lashum
Lechem Chom b'Yom Chilakcho".
1. (Mishnah): If a table with a wooden or leather top
was broken or covered with stone (which is not
(f) Answer #1: The Kli gets the law of the covering only if
the covering is nailed on (the gold was not nailed onto
i. If there remains a place (without stone) to
hold cups, it is Tamei; if not, it is Tahor;
ii. R. Yehudah says, if there remains a place to
hold pieces of meat, it is Tamei; if not, it is
iii. (This shows that the Kli has the law of the
covering; metal vessels, even stationary, are
(g) Rejection: R. Yochanan taught that this is not true.
1. Questions (Reish Lakish): Does this depend on
whether or not the covering is nailed on? Does it
depend on whether or not the rim is covered?
2. Answer (R. Yochanan): It does not matter whether or
not the covering is nailed on, or whether or not the
rim is covered.