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Prepared by R. Yakov Blinder
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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Moed Katan 8
1) DISCUSSION OF DERIVATION MENTIONED ABOVE, 7b, 8:b:1.
(a) Question: How exactly did R. Yehudah derive from "On the
day when it is seen on [the Metzora]..." that there are
certain days when a Kohen should not examine Negaim?
2) MISHNAH - REINTERMENT AND MOURNING DURING C.H.
(b) Abaye's answer: The prefix "u" of "u'v'yom" is extra, and
therefore serves as a basis for the said derivation.
(c) Rava's answer: The entire word u'v'yom is extra.
(d) Here there is a discussion of how Abaye relates to Rava's
approach and vice versa, how we know that Nega'im are not
inspected at night, and how we know that an inspecting
Kohen must be able to see with both eyes.
(a) R. Meir allows reinterment for one's parents' remains on
C.H., because it is a happy, not sad occasion. R. Yosi
considers it to be a sad event, and therefore forbids it.
3) GEMARA - QUESTION ON R. MEIR'S OPINION
(b) One may not bewail or lament a dead person within thrity
days of a Yom Tov.
(a) Question: How can R. Meir say reinterment is a joyous
event? There is a Beraisa which requires a one-day (but
not into the night) mourning period upon reinterment of a
4) DEFINITION OF THE MISHNAH'S "BEWAIL"
(b) Answer: R. Meir's words should not be interpreted as
"because it [reinterment] is a happy occasion," but as
"because it [C.H.] is a happy occasion, and this joy will
overshadow the sadness of reinterment."
(a) What is to "bewail"? In Eretz Yisrael they used to say,
"Let all those of bitter heart weep with him." This is
5) DISCUSSION OF THE NATURE OF THE MISHNAH'S THIRTY-DAY PERIOD
(a) Question: Why thirty days?
(b) Rav's answer: Because one might spend money that he had
saved up for Yom Tov on hiring a professional lamenter.
(c) Shmuel's answer: Because the sad emotions stirred up in
the lament last for thirty days and will interfere with
one's Simchas Yom Tov.
(d) The practical difference between the two answers: Holding
a lamentation ceremony without paid lamenters.
6) MISHNAH - THREE LAWS ABOUT C.H.
(a) One may not dig a new Kuch (little burial caves for
individual bodies) or grave on C.H., but they may be
7) GEMARA - DEFINITON OF TERMS FOR 6:a AND 6:b
(b) One may make a Nivreches (Rashi: a laundering pool;
others: a kind of grave) on C.H.
(c) One may make a coffin (from scratch) in the same
courtyard-complex where the deceased is. R. Yehudah
forbids this, unless the boards used are already cut.
(a) Question: What is the difference between a "Kuch" and a
8) APROPOS TO 6:c
(b) Answer: A "Kuch" is dug in the ground; a "grave" is dug
in a building.
(c) Question: What is meant by "altering"?
(d) R. Yehudah's answer: Shortening it to size. Beraisa's
answer: Lengthening and widening it.
(e) Question: What is a Nivreches?
(f) Answer: It is the same as a "Bekia."
(g) Question: A Beraisa makes it clear that Nivreches and
Bekia are two different things.
(h) Answer: They are similar, but slightly different. One is
a large pool, and the other is a smaller overflow pool
built at the side of the larger pool (Rashi).
(a) The Mishnah implies that according to theTanna Kama
boards may be cut anew for a coffin.
9) MISHNAH - FOUR TOPICS ABOUT C.H.
(b) This fact is corroborated by a Beraisa: "One may perform
all requirements for a dead person (on C.H.) - cutting
his hair, laundering his clothes, and constructing a
coffin from pre-existing boards (corresponding to R.
Yehudah in our Mishnah). Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel
(corresponding to the Tanna Kama in our Mishnah) says new
boards may also be cut for a coffin, provided it is done
indoors, in private.
(a) One may not marry (except for remarrying one's own
divorcee) on C.H. because it is a joyous activity.
10) EXPLANATION OF 9:a
(b) A woman may perform all kinds of beauty care on C.H. R.
Yehudah, however, forbids using lime treatment because it
causes her to become unsightly in the short run (during
(c) A non-skilled person may sew on C.H., but a professional
must do so in an unusual ("doglike") manner.
(d) The ropes that hold the mattress of a bed may be
intertwined on C.H. according to the Tanna Kama. R. Yosi
says the ropes may only be tightened.
(a) Question: Why should marriage be forbidden on C.H.?
(b) Shmuel's answer: Because one may not mingle one joy
(C.H.) wth another (marriage).
(c) Rabah's answer: Because a person will become preoccupied
with his rejoicing over his wife and neglect his Simchas
(d) Ula's answer: Because getting married involves many
preparations and exertions.
(e) R. Yitzchak Napcha's answer: Because if marriage were
allowed on C.H. everyone would postpone their weddings to
that convenient time, thus leading to delaying the
mitzvah of procreation.