REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Nazir 31
NAZIR 31 - Dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Chaim Mordechai ben Harav Yisrael Azriel
(Feldman) of Milwaukee (Yahrzeit: 19 Cheshvan) by the members of his family.
(a) Beis Shamai derive that 'Hekdesh Ta'us Hekdesh' 'Techilas Hekdesh from
What is Sof Hekdesh?
(b) What does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah (in Temurah) learn from the Pasuk
in Bechukosai "Vehayah Hu u'Semuraso *Yih'yeh* Kodesh"?
(c) On what grounds do Beis Hillel disagree with this?
(d) What problem do we have with a case of someone who declares an animal a
Temurah from midday on?
(a) On the basis of the previous Kashya, Rav Papa changes our understanding
of Beis Shamai.
How does he now explain the case in our Mishnah 'Amar Shor
Shachor she'Yeitzei mi'Beisi Rishon, Harei Hu Hekdesh, ve'Yatza Lavan'?
(b) This explanation also extends to the other two cases in our Mishnah.
How does it work in the case of Dinar Zafav she'Ya'aleh be'Yadi Rishon Harei
Hu Hekdesh, ve'Alah shel Kesef'?
(c) Beis Hillel disagree on the basis of the Lashon used by the Noder.
What does this refer to?
(d) Why does the Tana then refer to this as Hekdesh Ta'us, seeing as the
Hekdesh takes effect exactly as he intended it to?
(a) Beis Shamai in the following Mishnah say about the designated Korban of
a Nazir who then has his Nezirus annulled?
Answers to questions
(b) What did Beis Hillel attempt to prove from Beis Shamai's very own words?
(c) Why does this Mishnah present Rav Papa with a Kashya?
(d) How does Rav Papa resolve this problem?
(a) The following Mishnah speaks about six people traveling together when
they see a man coming towards them. The first traveler declares that he is a
Nazir if that person is Reuven.
What does the second one say?
(b) The third traveler declares that he is a Nazir if one of the first two
is a Nazir.
What does the fourth one say? Is he disagreeing with the
(c) The fifth traveler declares himself a Nazir if both of the first two are
How is that possible?
(d) What does the sixth traveler declare?
(a) On what grounds do Beis Shamai hold that they are all Nezirim?
(b) In that case, they will also hold 'Hekdesh Ta'us Hekdesh'.
way does this case differ from that of someone who declares a Temurah to
take effect from midday? Why there is the Hekdesh not effective immediately?
(c) How will Rav Papa reconcile his opinion (that Beis Shamai do not hold
'Hekdesh Ta'us Hekdesh') with that Mishnah?
(a) Abaye establishes our Mishnah as we thought at first (that it is the
white animal which is Hekdesh, even though the Noder specifically said 'the
first black one'.
How does Abaye explain the Mishnah, which says 'Dinar Zahav she'Ya'aleh
Rishon ... ', and 'Chavis shel Yayin she'Ta'aleh Rishonah ... ' (in the
How does he reconcile that with the case of someone who
declares a Temurah to take effect from midday (where Beis Shamai agrees that
we do not deviate from his words)? How does he change the case in the
Mishnah to explain Beis Shamai)?
(b) What would Abaye say in the equivalent case if the Noder made his
declaration with reference to the future, and then, when they told him that
it was a white animal that emerged first, he said that, had he known that,
he would have specifically said 'a white one'? Why the difference?
(c) In what way would this latter case differ from the case of Temurah, and
from the Mishnah of the six travelers (where Beis Shamai hold 'Hekdesh Ta'us
(d) And what do Beis Hillel say?
(a) What does Rav Chisda mean when he says ...
(b) What is the problem with that from our Mishnah, where Beis Shamai
declare the white ox Hekdesh? Why would we take for granted that the Noder
had in mind a black one?
- ... 'Uchma be'Chivra Lakya'?
- ... 'Chivra be'Uchma Lakya'?
(c) How will Rav Chisda explain our Mishnah to conform with his opinion?
(d) On what grounds do we reject his answer? How is it clear that a person
tends to be Makdish begrudgingly?
(a) Having concluded that a person tends to be Makdish begrudgingly ...
(b) Based on these facts, why does the Tana of our Mishnah need to state all
three cases? Why does it mention the case of ...
- ... how will we explain the Seifa of Chavis, seeing as oil is generally more expensive than wine?
- ... how will Rav Chisda explain the Reisha, where Beis Shamai considers the white ox Hekdesh, even though, in his opinion, it is more valuable?
- ... the coins (the middle case)?
- ... the oxen (the Reisha)?
- ... the barrels (the Seifa)?
(a) Rav Chisda also said that a black ox is good for its skin, and a red one
for its meat.
What is a white one good for?
(b) How does this appear to clash with his previous statement (that a black
ox among white ones lessens their value)?
(c) We resolve these two statements by qualifying the first one.
How do we
(d) How will Rav Chisda then explain our Mishnah, which considers black oxen
(a) If the Chacham declined to annul the Nezirus, the Noder continues to
count his Nezirus from the time of the declaration. As we learned earlier,
Beis Shamai holds that the designated Korban of a Nazir who then has his
Nezirus annulled - must graze in the field until it obtains a blemish, when
it goes out to Chulin.
What did Beis Shamai respond when Beis Hillel
attempted to prove from Beis Shamai's own words that he holds 'Hekdesh Ta'us
Eino Hekdesh'? How did they attempt to prove from Ma'aser Sheini that
'Hekdesh Ta'us Hekdesh'?
(b) Why in fact, do Beis Shamai agree with Beis Hillel in the earlier case?
(c) We learned in Perek 'Mi she'Amar' that, assuming that the Chatas of a
Nezirah was hers, it must die (whereas here we say that it grazes). This may
be because a husband only negates his wife's Nedarim from now on (but not
from their inception, or it may be because the Tana there is Rebbi Elazar
ha'Kapar, who requires that she brings a Chatas anyway (as we discussed
How in fact, could even Rebbi Elazar ha'Kapar agree that even the
(a) Beis Shamai attempt to prove from Ma'aser Beheimah that Hekdesh Ta'us,
Hekdesh, as we just explained.
Answers to questions
If the reason by Ma'aser Beheimah is
because of Hekdesh Ta'us, then why are only the three animals in question
Ma'aser, and not the eighth or the twelfth?
(b) How will Rav Papa, who learns that, at this stage, Beis Shamai hold
'Ta'us Hekdesh Eino Ta'us', explain Beis Shamai's answer, where he clearly
holds 'Hekdesh Ta'us, Hekdesh'?
(c) How do Beis Hillel counter Beis Shamai's proof from Ma'aser Beheimah? If
the reason there is not because of 'Hekdesh Ta'us', then what is it?