POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
Prepared by Rabbi N. Slifkin
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Nedarim 14
NEDARIM 14 & 15 - The Sichel family of Baltimore Maryland has dedicated two
Dafim, in prayer for a Refu'ah Shelemah for Mrs. Sichel, Miriam bas Shprintza
-- may she have a speedy and full recovery.
1) EXPLAINING THE MISHNAH (Cont.)
(a) Alternate answer (Ravina): It means that all these things are
permitted like Chullin; otherwise we would have though that they
need She'elah (requesting release).
(b) Question: We would not have thought that She'elah is required,
because we see that only the last case of the Mishnah is
specified as requiring She'elah!?
(c) Answer: It must therefore be that Chullin is stated for nothing.
(d) Question: How do we know that Nedarim cannot be made with the
things in the Mishnah?
(e) Answer: The Passuk says Yidor Neder, which means that he must use
something that is prohibited by Neder, not which is innately
(f) Question: We should use the phrase Le'esor Isar to include that
which is innately prohibited?
(g) Answer: That is used in the Beraisa which examines the prototype
Issur (see 12a).
(a) The Mishnah said that if someone prohibits his wife "as my
mother," we permit it via some means etc.
(b) Question: We find that if a person prohibits his wife like the
flesh of his mother or sister, like Orlah, or Kilayim, it is not
(c) Answer (Abayey): It is not effective D'Oraisa, but it still needs
a release D'Rabbanan.
(d) Answer (Rava): If a Talmid Chacham said it, it does not take
effect (but if an Am Ha'aretz said it, he must request release so
as not to take it lightly.)
1. Similarly, we find in a Beraisa that a blanket permission
refers to a Talmid Chacham:
i. If one makes a Neder by the Torah, it does not take
ii. (R. Yochanan) One must request release from a Chacham.
iii. (R. Nachman) A Talmid Chacham need not request release.
(e) (Beraisa) If one makes a Neder by the Torah, it does not take
3) MISHNAH: NEDARIM ON ACTIONS
(f) If he makes it by what is written in it, it does take effect.
(g) If he makes it by the Torah and by what is written in it, it does
(h) Question: Why is the last case necessary?
(i) Answer #1: The first two cases refer to where he is holding the
Sefer Torah, where only if he said "what is written in it" is it
effective; the last case refers to where the Torah is on the
ground, where unless he adds "by it," he could be referring to
(j) Answer #2: It all refers to where it was on the ground; the last
case is written as "needless to say."
(k) Answer #3: The last case alone refers to where he was holding it,
and it means that saying "by it" is in this case as good as
saying "by what is written in it."
(a) If someone says Konam on sleeping, speaking, walking, or having
relations with his wife, it is subject to Bal Yachel.
4) RISKING BREAKING CONDITIONS
(a) (Beraisa) If one prohibits himself from sleep today if he sleep
1. (R. Yehudah citing Rav) He should not sleep today in case he
2. (R. Nachman) He can sleep today without concern about
3. R. Yehudah agrees that if he prohibited himself from sleep
tomorrow if he sleeps today, then he can sleep today.
i. The reason is that while a person is not careful about
transgressing the condition, he is careful about
transgressing the prohibition.