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Nedarim 8


(a) What does Rav Gidal Amar Rav learn from the Pasuk in Tehilim "Nishba'ti va'Akayeimah Lishmor Mishpetei Tzidkecha"?

(b) What problem do we have with this?

(c) So what *is* Rav saying?

(d) How do we know that Rav's Chidush is not that, whereas "Leha'ra O Leheitiv" which is written in the Parshah of Korbanos, does not apply to Mitzvos (but is confined to voluntary acts), 'bal Yacheil' does?

(a) What does Rav Gidal Amar Rav come to add when he says about someone who makes a Shevu'ah that he will learn a certain Perek 'Neder Gadol Nadar l'Elokei Yisrael' (even though he too, is 'Mushba ve'Omed me'Har Sinai)?

(b) The Lashon Rav uses is 'Neder Gadol Nadar ... '. Is this considered a Neder or a Shevu'ah?

(c) Is it really true that a person fulfills his duty regarding the Mitzvah of Talmud-Torah by reading the Sh'ma each morning and evening?

(d) Then what does Rav mean here?

(a) What does Rav Gidal Amar Rav learn from the Pasuk in Yechezkel "Vayomer Eilai Kum Tzei el ha'Bik'ah ... va'Eitzei el ha'Bik'ah ve'Hinei Sham K'vod Hashem Omed"?

(b) What obligates the instigator to take the initiative in carrying it out?

(c) What else is Rav teaching us here?

(a) Rav Yosef says that someone who dreams that he has been placed in Niduy, must have it released by ten men.
Why does he need ...
  1. ... to have it released at all?
  2. ... ten men to release it?
(b) The ten men must be of the caliber who teach Torah ('de'Masni Hilch'sa') and not just who learn it ('ve'Lo de'Tanu').
What is the alternative text (and explanation)?

(c) What should he do if he cannot find ten men ...

  1. ... who teach Torah (or who learn Gemara)?
  2. ... who (even learn) Torah?
(a) What did Rav Ashi reply to Ravina, when he asked him whether, if he knows who placed him in Niduy in his dream, that person is permitted to release his Niduy on his own?

(b) And what did Rav Ashi reply to Rav Acha, when he asked him whether, if in his dream, the person who declared the Niduy also releases it, the Niduy is released.

(c) It is unclear whether a Menudeh in a dream is obligated to practice all the Dinim of a Menudeh.
What distinction might we make between someone who is placed in Niduy in a dream and someone who made a Neder in a dream (though the Rashba disagrees)?

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(a) Ravina asked Rav Ashi whether a husband can be a Sh'liach to nullify his wife's Nedarim. The Rambam follows the opinion of the Yerushalmi, that this She'eilah is confined to a husband, but as far as anyone else is concerned, it is obvious that he cannot.
Why not?

(b) On what grounds then, might a husband be different?

(c) What did Rav Ashi reply?

(a) According to Tosfos, it is obvious that anyone can be a Sheli'ach to nullify someone else's Nedarim.
Then why might a husband be worse?

(b) How will this explain Rav Ashi's answer? Why should there be a difference whether three Dayanim are readily available or whether he has to go and look for them?

(c) Rabeinu Shimshon permits writing down the details of one's remorse and sending it to Beis-Din for them to nullify one's vow.
What is Rabeinu's Shimshon Chidush?

(d) What is his source?

(a) We learn three things from Rav Ashi's reply. We learn that a husband can be a Sheli'ach to nullify his wife's Nedarim in Beis-Din and that he can only do so if he finds the three Dayanim already gathered.
What is the third Chidush?

(b) Considering that the Yerushalmi rules like Rebbi Yehudah, in whose opinion a husband is not permitted to nullify those Nedarim of his wife that do not affect him intimately, what is the significance of the third Chidush?
What might Ravina have then been able to do?

(c) Is there anything he could have done, even assuming that, due to the principle 'Ishto ke'Gufo', the Yerushalmi forbids a husband even to sit together with other Dayanim to nullify his wife's Nedarim?

(a) In which of the three above Dinim is Shamta more lenient than Neder?

(b) A Yachid Mumcheh may release a Shamta (or a Neder for that matter). What do we learn from the Pasuk in Matos "Roshei ha'Matos" in this regard?

(c) What can we prove from the fact that Rav Huna annulled Nedarim on his own (Yerushalmi), and that Rav Nachman is named as one who was eligible to permit Shechting a Bechor on his own (Bechoros)?

(d) What does the Rambam rule with regard to three ordinary people releasing a Niduy if there is no Chacham available?

(a) To whom is Mal'achi referring when he writes "ve'Zarchah Lachem Yir'ei Sh'mi"?

(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah b'Rebbi Ila'i learn from the continuation of the Pasuk "Shemesh Tzedakah u'Marpei bi'Chenafehah"?

(c) How does Resh Lakish explain the Pasuk ...

  1. ... "Shemesh Tzedakah u'Marpei bi'Chenafehah"? In which way does he disagree with Rebbi Yehudah?
  2. ... "vi'Yetzasem u'Fishtem (you will enjoy yourselves) ke'Eglei Marbeik"?
  3. ... "Hinei Yom Ba Bo'er ka'Tanur ... " (ibid)?
(d) To which era is Resh Lakish referring?
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