REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Nedarim 42
NEDARIM 42 (29 Av) - "Mechabdo b'Chayav, Mechabdo b'Moso" (Kidushin 31b).
This Daf has been dedicated by Yair Trebitsch l'Iluy Nishmas his father,
Eliezer Shmuel Binyomin ben Mayer Trebitsch, in honor of his Yahrzeit.
(a) Someone who is Mudar Hana'ah before the Sh'mitah, may neither enter the
field of the Madir, nor may he eat from the fruit that overhangs the street.
What will be the Din if the Madir declared the Neder in the Sh'mitah-year?
(b) What will be the Din if the Madir restricted the Neder to food ...
- ... before the Sh'mitah?
- ... during the Sh'mitah?
(a) Rav and Shmuel both maintain that the Reisha of our Mishnah (which
forbids both entering the Madir's field and benefiting from the fruit that
overhangs the street - when the Madir declared the Neder before the
Sh'mitah) continues to apply even when the Sh'mitah year arrives.
Does it make any difference, according to our current understanding of Rebbi
Yochanan and Resh Lakish, whether the Madir declared the Neder S'tam or
whether he specifically stated that he wishes it to remain in effect after
it has left his domain?
Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish say?
(b) How will Rav and Shmuel then explain ...
(c) According to the suggestion that the basis of their Machlokes is whether
the prohibition that a person makes on his property extends even to when the
property is no longer in his domain, in which point in our Mishnah do Rebbi
Yochanan and Resh Lakish argue with Rav and Shmuel?
- ... the prohibition (forbidding the overhanging fruit) in the Reisha of our Mishnah?
- ... the Seifa?
(d) If the Reisha and the Seifa of our Mishnah, according to Rebbi Yochanan
and Resh Lakish, are speaking in one and the same case, what is the Chidush
in the Reisha?
(a) Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish speak specifically when the Madir said
Answers to questions
What makes us think that they refer even to a case of
(b) Perhaps the Chidush of the Mishnah is to teach us that the Mudar is
forbidden to enter the Madir's land (to preclude the suggestion that the
land too, leaves the owner's domain in the Sh'mitah)?
(c) What will then be the difference between when someone says ' ...
le'Bayis Zeh she'Ani Nichnas', where the Noder is forbidden to benefit from
the house even after the owner dies or sells it, and our case, where, when
the Madir forbids his field with the Lashon 'Nechasim Eilu', the Neder
becomes annulled the moment Sh'mitah arrives, taking the fruit out of his
(d) On what logical grounds do we refute this interpretation of their
(a) So in which case do we now think Rav and Shmuel argue with Rebbi
Yochanan and Resh Lakish?
(b) Then why did Rav and Shmuel say 'Nechasim Eilu'?
(c) What will they all hold by 'Nechasim Eilu'?
(d) How do Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish now establish the Reisha of the
(a) What will be the Din if a man dies after saying to his son ...
(b) Why is there no proof from here that when the Madir forbids his own
property on the Mudar, his Neder is limited to as long as the property
belongs to him?
- ... 'Konem she'Atah Neheneh Li'?
- ... 'Konem she'Atah Neheneh Li be'Chayai u've'Mosi'?
(a) What does the Tana of the Mishnah in 'ha'Shutfin' say about someone who
Seeing as throughout the Sugya, we cited Rav and Shmuel before Rebbi
Yochanan and Resh Lakish, why, in its final statement, do we reverse the
order, before concluding 've'Lo P'ligi'?
(b) What does this Mishnah prove?
- ... 'Konem le'Toch *Beischa* she'Ani Nichnas, Sadcha she'Ani Lokei'ach; Meis, O she'Machro le'Acher ... '?
- ... '*le'Bayis Zeh* she'Ani Nichnas, Sadeh Zu she'Ani Lokei'ach; Meis, O she'Machro le'Acher ... '?
(c) So how do we finally reconcile Rav and Shmuel with Rebbi Yochanan and
(d) Does our Mishnah now speak in a case of 'Nechasim 'Eilu' or 'Nechasai'?
(a) What problem do we have with the Tana's prohibition of entering the
field in the Shmitah?
Answers to questions
(b) Ula answers that the Tana is speaking about trees that are situated at
the edge of the field.
Why should that make any difference?
(c) Rav Shimon ben Elyakim forbids entry even to pick fruit from trees that
are in the *middle* of the field.
Why is that?
(d) Why, in that case, did Shmuel (who holds in principle like Rav Shimon
ben Elyakim), only decree 'Gezeirah Shema Yashheh *bi'Yeshivah*' (in the
case of the sick Mudar), and not '*ba'Amidah*'?