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Previous daf Sanhedrin 70
1) THE MEAT AND WINE HE MUST EAT
(a) (Mishnah): He is liable after he eats Tartimar (this will
be explained) of meat and drinks half a Log of Italki
2) THE USES AND RESULTS OF WINE
(b) R. Yosi says, after he eats a Maneh of meat and drinks a
Log of wine.
(c) In the following cases, he is exempt:
1. He ate with a group doing a Mitzvah, such as the
meal to signify Ibur Chodesh (when a 30th day is
added to the month), or if he ate (Rashi - meat and
wine bought with money of) Ma'aser Sheni in
(d) (Gemara - R. Zeira): I do not know (from another source)
what Tartimar is, but since R. Yosi requires twice as
much wine as Chachamim, presumably he requires twice as
much meat, i.e. Tartimar is half a Maneh.
2. He ate Neveilos, Treifos, Shekatzim u'Rmashim
(insects and swarming creatures), Tevel, Ma'aser,
Ma'aser Sheni and Hekdesh that were not redeemed;
3. He ate something that is a Mitzvah or a
4. He ate many foods, but not meat; he drank many
beverages, but not wine;
i. "Zolel v'Sovei" - he must eat meat and drink
ii. "B'Sov'ei Yayin b'Zolelei Vasar" - this is not
a proof, but it hints at this law.
(e) (R. Chanan bar Moldah): He is liable only if he buys meat
and wine cheaply and eats them - "*Zol*el v'Sovei"
(f) (R. Chanan bar Moldah): He is liable only if he eats raw
meat and drinks unmixed wine.
(g) Question: But Rabah and Rav Yosef say, he is exempt for
(h) Answer (Ravina): R. Chanan refers to wine that is
semi-diluted (i.e. it is stronger (less diluted) than
people usually drink) and meat that is half-cooked, like
thieves (who fear to wait until it is fully cooked) eat.
(i) (Rabah and Rav Yosef): If he ate salted meat or drank
unfermented wine, he is exempt (they are not addicting).
(j) (Mishnah): Erev Tishah b'Av, a person may not eat two
different cooked dishes, nor eat meat or drink wine;
1. (Beraisa): He may eat salted meat or drink
(k) Question: Regarding Ben Sorer u'Moreh, when are meat and
wine considered salted/unfermented?
2. Question: When is meat considered salted (regarding
Erev Tishah b'Av)?
3. Answer (R. Chanina bar Kahana): After the time
allowed to eat Shelamim, i.e. two days.
4. Question: How long is wine considered unfermented?
5. Answer: As long as it is Toses (stings, because it
i. (Beraisa): We are not concerned if Toses wine
was left uncovered (snakes do not drink it).
ii. Question: How long is it considered Toses?
iii. Answer: Three days.
(l) Answer: Erev Tishah b'Av we may not eat things that cause
Simchah - within two days (of slaughter), meat gives
1. Here, he is liable for addicting meat and wine -
meat after a small delay (Rashi - one night), and
wine until 40 days are not addicting.
(a) (R. Chanan): "Tenu Shechar l'Oved v'Yayin l'Marei Nafesh"
- wine was created to console mourners and to give
Resha'im their reward in this world.
(b) Question (R. Yitzchak): What is the meaning of "Al Tere
Yayin Ki Yisadam"?
(c) Answer #1 (R. Yitzchak): Do not be drawn after wine, for
it reddens the faces of Resha'im (gladdens them) in this
world and whitens their face (shames them) in the world
(d) Answer #2 (Rava): Do not be drawn after wine, for
Yisa*dam* (it leads to bloodshed).
(e) Question (Rav Kahana): We read "Tirosh", but sometimes it
is written "Tirash"!
(f) Answer (Rav Kahana): If he merits, he will become the
Rosh (head); if not, he will become Rash (poor).
(g) Question (Rava): We read "Yesamach", but it is written
(h) Answer (Rava): If he merits, it will gladden him; if not,
it will make him Shamem (desolate).
1. (Rava): Wine and nice smells made me clever.
(i) Question (Rav Amram brei d'Rav Shemen bar Aba): What is
the meaning of "L'Mi Oy l'Mi Avoy l'Mi Midyanim l'Mi
Si'ach l'Mi Petza'im Chinam l'Mi Chachlilus Einayim
la'Me'acharim Al ha'Yayin".
(j) Answer (Rav Amram): People who drink much wine suffer all
(k) (Rav Dimi): In Eretz Yisrael, some expound this verse
from beginning to end (like Rav Amram), some expound it
in reverse order (one who suffers all these should
indulge in wine).
(l) (Over Galila'ah): In the Parshah that discusses No'ach's
drunkenness, 13 words begin with 'Vov-Yud' (suggesting
Vai, woe) - "Va'Yachel No'ach..."
(m) (Rav or Shmuel): "Va'Yeda Es Asher Asah Lo Beno ha'Katan"
- Cham castrated No'ach.
(n) (The other of Rav and Shmuel): He had Mishkav Zachar with
1. The first opinion says that Cham prevented No'ach
from having a fourth son - this explains why No'ach
cursed Cham's fourth son;
(o) Question: The first opinion explained why No'ach cursed
Cham's fourth son - according to the second opinion, why
did he curse the fourth son?
2. The second opinion learns from a Gezerah Shavah
i. It says here "Va'Yar Cham", it says (by the
rape of Dinah) "Va'Yar Osah Shechem".
(p) Answer: The second opinion says that Cham raped *and*
(q) (Rav Chisda): "Va'Yachel No'ach" - Hash-m told No'ach,
you should have learned from Adam ha'Rishon, wine was his
(r) This is according to the opinion that the Etz ha'Da'as
was a grapevine.
1. (Beraisa - R. Meir): The Etz ha'Da'as was a vine,
which brings more misery to the world than anything
3) A MEAL THAT IS A MITZVAH OR TRANSGRESSION
2. R. Yehudah says, it was wheat - a child does not
know to call to his parents until he tastes grain.
(s) (R. Yochanan): "Divrei l'Mu'el...Asher Yisarto Imo" - Bas
Sheva tied Shlomo to a beam and lashed him (for eating
3. R. Nechemyah says, it was a fig tree - their remedy
("Va'Yisperu Ale Se'einah", clothes made from fig
leaves) was from the same thing that they sinned
1. "Mah Beri..." - people know that your father was a
Tzadik, they will assume that I am responsible for
(t) (R. Yitzchak): Shlomo admitted to his mother - "Ki Ba'ar
2. "U'Mah Bar Bitni" - David would not have relations
with his other wives when they were pregnant - I
asserted myself, for this improves the fetus;
3. "U'Meh Bar Nedarai" - David's other wives (prayed
and) vowed what they would do if they would have a
son fitting for kingship - I vowed in order that my
son should be zealous, a Chacham, and fitting for
4. "Al la'Melachim Sheso Yayin" - why should you be
with kings who drink, get drunk and renounce Hash-m?
5. Version #1: "Ul'Roznim Ei Shechar" - you know all
the secrets of the world, will you drink and get
6. Version #2: Ul'Roznim Ei Shechar" - those (the
Sanhedrin) who engage in the secrets of the world,
seek your counsel every day - will you drink and get
1. "Ki Ba'ar Anochi me'Ish" - I am more foolish than
No'ach, about whom it says "Va'Yachel No'ach Ish
2. "V'Lo Vinas Adam Li" - I lack the understanding of
(a) (Mishnah): He ate with a group doing a Mitzvah...
4) FOOD THAT IS A MITZVAH OR TRANSGRESSION
(b) (R. Amah): He is liable only if he all the people he ate
with are worthless.
(c) Question (Mishnah): If he ate with a group doing a
Mitzvah he is exempt.
1. Inference: If they were not doing a Mitzvah, he is
liable, even if they are not all worthless!
(d) Answer: No - it teaches that even if they are all
worthless, if the meal was a Mitzvah, he is exempt, for
he will not become habituated to this.
(e) (Mishnah): The meal to signify Ibur Chodesh.
(f) Inference: This implies that they eat meat and wine at
the meal of Ibur Chodesh.
(g) Question (Beraisa): They only bring bread of grain and
legumes to this meal.
(h) Answer: The Mishnah teaches that even though they only
brought bread of grain and legumes, and he brought meat
and wine, since it is a Mitzvah, he will not become
(i) (Beraisa): The meal of Ibur Chodesh must have at least 10
men, they only bring bread of grain and legumes, they
enter (the place where they will eat) on the night after
the 30th, at night, not during the day.
(j) Contradiction (Beraisa): They enter during the day, not
(k) Answer: They enter during the day to publicize the
matter, the meal itself is at night.
(a) (Mishnah): If he ate (Rashi - meat and wine bought with
money of) Ma'aser Sheni in Yerushalayim.
(b) Since he eats it according to Halachah, he will not
(c) (Mishnah): If he ate Neveilos, Treifos, Shekatzim
(d) (Rava): If he ate fowl, he is exempt.
(e) Question (Mishnah): If he ate Neveilos, Treifos,
Shekatzim u'Rmasim, he is exempt;
1. Inference: He is exempt for Shekatzim u'Rmasim
because they are forbidden - if he ate Tehorim, he
would be liable, even though they are not animals!
(f) Answer: The Mishnah teaches that he is exempt even if he
ate most of the Tartimar of meat, and completed the
quantity with forbidden food. (If he completed it with
Tahor species, he would be liable; Rava exempts when he
only ate fowl.)
(g) (Mishnah): He ate something that is a Mitzvah or a
(h) 'A Mitzvah' - consolation of mourners; 'a transgression'
- he ate on a fast day.
(i) Question: What is the reason?
(j) Answer: "Einenu Shome'a *b'Koleinu*" - not that he
ignores what Hash-m says.
(k) (Mishnah): If he ate many foods, but not meat; he drank
many beverages, but not wine (he is exempt).
(l) 'If he ate many foods' - this includes dates of Ke'ilis
(even though they intoxicate, they are not addicting);
1. 'He drank many beverages' - this includes milk and
2. (Beraisa): If one ate dates of Ke'ilis or drank milk
and honey and entered the Mikdash, he is liable.