ANSWERS TO REVIEW QUESTIONS
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Sanhedrin 53
(a) The problem with Rebbi Yashiyah, who holds that S'tam Miysah bi'Yedei
Adam receives Chenek - is that since Chenek does not appear in the Torah,
why should we make such an assumption? Why not sentence S'tam Miysah to
Hereg, which *is* written?
(b) We answer - that, according to Rebbi Yashiyah, all four Miysos are
'Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai'.
(c) We know to whom to give Chenek, according to him from a S'vara - because
wherever the Torah does not indicate any Miysah, we assume that he must
receive the most lenient one, which is Chenek (see Maharsha).
(d) The basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yashiyah and Rebbi Yonasan is -
synonymous with the Machlokes between the Chachamim and Rebbi Shimon as to
whether Chenek is more lenient than Hereg or vice-versa. Rebbi Yashiyah
holds like the Chachamim, Rebbi Yonasan, like Rebbi Shimon,
(a) What Avodas-Kochavim, Na'arah ha'Me'urasah, Chilul-Shabbos, Ov
ve'Yid'oni and Megadef all have in common is - the fact that Sekilah is
expressly written by each of them.
(b) Rebbi Zeira asked Abaye from which 'Gezeirah-Shavah' we learn it. The
two possibilities are - "Mos Yamusu" "Mos Yamusu" or "Demeihem Bam" Demeihem
(c) He answered that we learn it from "Demeihem Bam" and not from "Mos
Yamusu" (even though both are written by Ov ve'Yid'oni and by all the other
cases of Sekilah, and the latter, by the two cases which we will now
suggest). And he proves it - because he says, if we learned it from "Mos
Yamusu", we would have no way of explaining "Demeihem Bam", and it would be
(d) Now that we learn it from "Demeihem Bam" however, we learn from "Mos
Yamusu" - that if Beis-Din are unable to kill the condemned man with the
prescribed Miysah, then they must kill him in whichever way they can.
(a) Rav Acha from Difti asked Ravina why Rebbi Zeira was concerned about the
source of the 'Gezeirah-Shavah', whether it was perhaps an Eishes Ish who
committed adultery that we learn from 'Gezeirah-Shavah' of "Mos Yamusu", to
which he replied - that this is not possible, because the Torah prescribes
Sekilah for a Na'arah ha'Me'urasah, insinuating that a Nesu'ah does not
(b) And when he asked Ravina whether it was not Makeh Aviv ve'Imo that
bothered Rebbi Zeira - he again replied in the negative, because then (due
to the tendency to go for the more lenient death), we would rather learn the
'Gezeirah-Shavah' from Eishes Ish, to give her Chenek.
(c) Rebbi Zeira was concerned that, if we were to learn the
'Gezeirah-Shavah' from "Mos Yamusu" - then how would we know all the other
cases of Chayvei Sekilah (listed in the following Mishnah)? Instead of
learning the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' from Ov and Yid'oni, why not rather learn it
from Eishes Ish and give them Chenek (as we just asked on Makeh Aviv
(a) In addition to the five (counting Ov ve'Yid'oni as one) cases of Chayvei
Sekilah that we mentioned earlier, our Mishnah now lists another eleven
cases of Sekilah. The common source for all of them is - the
'Gezeirah-Shavah' of "Demeihem Bam".
(b) The Torah is more stringent by someone who curses his parents than by
someone who strikes them - because, in addition to the disgrace to one's
parents, he also pronounces Hashem's Name in vain (as this is an intrinsic
part of the transgression).
(c) The difference between a Meisis and a Medi'ach is - that whereas the
former entices individuals to serve idols, the latter goes for entire
(d) In spite of the fact that a person can only die once, the significance
of the ruling of the Tana Kama's ruling that someone who commits incest with
his mother transgresses 'Eishes Av' too is - in a case where someone
transgressed be'Shogeg, who has to bring a Korban Chatas.
(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah, someone who commits incest with his mother -
is Chayav because of 'Imo', and not because of 'Eishes Aviv'.
(b) Our Mishnah states - that if someone commits incest with his father's
wife (who is not his mother) - he is also Chayav because of Eishes Ish.
(c) The next words 'Bein be'Chayei Aviv Bein le'Achar Miysah' - pertain only
to 'Eishes Av', but not to 'Eishes Ish', which falls away after the death of
(d) The Tana know that the Chiyuv of Eishes Av applies equally to where they
are only betrothed and not yet married - from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei
"ve'Ish Ki Yikach Ishah", which refers to Kidushin, from which we learn that
a betrothed woman is considered one's wife in most regards.
(e) A daughter-in-law - has exactly the same Din as Eishes Av in the above
regards. She too, is Chayav because of Eishes Av as well, remains forbidden
even after the death of his son and is forbidden even if she is only
betrothed (and not yet married) to one's son.
(a) Rebbi Yehudah rules that in a case of Imo whom his father ought not to
have married - the son is not Chayav because of Eishes Av.
(b) Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah does indeed preclude Eishes Av from Imo
under any circumstances - but our Tana argues with the Tana of the Beraisa
over what Rebbi Yehudah actually holds in this point.
(c) He cannot be referring to a case where she belongs to the category of
Chayvei Kerisus - because then, the Rabanan (with whom Rebbi Yehudah is
clearly coming to argue), would also agree, since even they will agree that
Kidushin does not take effect on Chayvei K'risus.
(d) We conclude that he is referring to a case of Chayvei La'avin, and he
holds that Kidushin does not take effect by Chayvei La'avin - because he
follows the opinion of Rebbi Akiva, who holds 'Ein Kidushin Tofsin
(a) An Isur ...
1. ... Mitzvah refers to - the Isur de'Rabbanan of Sheniyos mi'Divrei
2. ... Kedushah refers to - Chayvei La'avin, such as Almanah le'Kohen Gadol
and Gerushah va'Chalutzah le'Kohen Hedyot.
1. The Tana refers them in this way - because with regard to the former, it
is a *Mitzvah* to listen to the words of the Chachamim, and with regard to
the latter, the Torah writes about the Kohanim "*Kedoshim* Yihe'yu
(c) The Halachic difference between an Isur Kareis on the one hand, and an
Isur Mitzvah and Isur Kedushah on the other (regarding Yibum) is - that the
latter remain obligated to do Chalitzah (even though they are Patur from
Yibum), whereas (based on the maxim 'Kol she'Eino Olah le'Yibum, Einah Olah
la'Chalitzah', the former are Patur from both.
2. Rebbi Yehudah, who inverts them, refers to them in this way - because
Sefer Vayikra, which is called 'Toras Kohanim', ends with "Eileh
*ha'Mitzvos*", and because of the injunction (based on "Kedoshim Tihe'yu")
'*Kadesh* Atzm'cha be'Mutar Lach', referring to things which the Torah
permitted and (in this context) the Rabbanan forbade.
(a) Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa - switches the implications of Isur Mitzvah
and Isur Kedushah.
(b) He seems to agree however, that they require Chalitzah, a problem, Rav
Oshaya points out - inasmuch, as Rebbi Akiva (whose opinion Rebbi Yehudah
follows) considers Chayvei La'avin no different than Chayvei Kerisus, and
Chayvei Kerisus are exempt from Chalitzah and from Yibum.
(c) We reconcile Rebbi Yehudah there with the fact that here he holds like
Rebbi Akiva - by establishing Rebbi Yehudah there to conform with the
Chachamin's opinion, even though personally, he disagrees with them.
(a) Rebbi Yitzchak cites Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa which conforms with his
opinion in our Mishnah. Abaye cites the Pasuk "Imcha Hi" - to extrapolate
that wherever there is an Isur 'Imcha', 'Eishes Av' will not apply (like
(b) According to Abaye, we will extrapolate from the next Pasuk "Ervas
Eishes Avicha Lo Segaleh, Ervas Avicha *Hi*" - that wherever there is an
Isur of 'Eishes Av', the Isur of 'Eim' will not apply.
(c) Besides the obvious discrepancy between the two contradictory D'rashos,
we also ask from the Rabbanan in our Mishnah - who hold of both Chiyuvim
simultaneously. So what will they do with "Imcha Hi"?
(a) We therefore conclude that we need "Imcha Hi" for the D'rashah of Rav
Shisha B'rei de'Rav Idi, which will quoted later in the Sugya. Bearing in
mind that the Pasuk writes "Demeihem Bam" by Eishes Aviv, Rav Shisha B'rei
de'Rav Idi learns from "Imcha Hi" - that Sekilah applies even by incest with
one's mother who is not one's father's wife (since she is not included in
the D'rashah that we just mentioned).
(b) And "Ervas Avicha Hi" - will then come to include Eishes Aviv after the
death of one's father.
(a) Rav Acha B'rei de'Rav Ika then tries to learn Rebbi Yehudah's Din from
the Pasuk (that follows "Imcha Hi") "Lo Segaleh Ervasah", which he
Darshens - 'Mishum Ervah Achas Atah Mechayvo, ve'I Atah Mechayvo Mishum
(b) The problem from the Pasuk "Ervas Kalascha Lo Segaleh ... Lo Segaleh
Ervasah" is - that Rebbi Yehudah ought then to make the same D'rashah there
and to preclude the Isur of Eishes Ish from 'Kalaso'. Yet our Mishnah holds
that one is Chayav both simultaneously, and Rebbi Yehudah does not seem to
argue with that.
(c) We justify the Torah's use of the singular Lashon ("Ervasah"), even if
one is Chayav two La'avin - due to the fact that when all's said and done,
there is only one woman involved.
(a) Rava finally explains the Pesukim according to Rebbi Yehudah. He
interprets the Pasuk
1. ... "Ervas Avicha" (from a 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "from Ervas Aviv" [in
connection with Eishes Aviv]) - to mean Eishes Aviv (initially incorporating
both one that is not his mother and one that is).
(b) If not for the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' we would have established the Pasuk
"Ervas Avicha" - by a case of homosexuality with one's father (which is how
the Rabbanan actually explain it as we shall see shortly).
2. ... "Ervas Imecha" - to mean his mother whom his father raped (or
3. ... "Imcha Hi - to confine 'Eishes Aviv' in the Reisha to one that is not
his mother, like Abaye learned earlier.