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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafShekalim 18
(a) The main Shulchan was placed two (or two and a half) Amos away from the
north-wall of the Heichal - to allow the two Kohanim who were carrying the
two rows of bread from the marble table in the Ulam to the table in the
Heichal, to walk abreast there.
(b) The length of ...
- ... the D'vir (the Kodesh Kodshim) - was twenty Amos.
- ... the Heichal - was forty Amos.
- the Shulchan - was located on the north side of the Heichal in the western half, and
- the Menorah - exactly opposite on the south.
- the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav - was in the middle, but drawn slightly towards the east.
(a) The five Menoros on the right and the five on the left, cannot be taken
literally (to mean five on the right-side of the entrance, and five on the
left) for the same reason that we gave by the tables i.e. because of the
Pasuk in Terumah which specifically writes that the Menorah must be on the
*south*-side of the Azarah, and not the *north*.
(b) Consequently, it must mean that five Menoros were placed on the right of
Moshe's Menorah, and five on the left.
(c) According to ...
(d) 'Kilu Zahav shel Shlomoh' means that it used up all the gold of Shlomoh
- because he used one thousand Kikar of gold (three million Shekalim) for
each Menorah, before heating it in a furnace again and again, until it was
so refined, that only *one* Kikar remained.
- ... the Tana Kama - the Kohanim lit only one Menorah each day.
- ... Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah - they lit all eleven.
(a) Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi describes how they once made a Menorah consisting of
one Dinar more than the required Kikar - they tried to bring it down to a
Kikar by refining it as much as a thousand times, but the excess remained.
(Note: They must have attempted to refine it when it was already a Menorah,
which seems a strange thing to do).
(b) The Gemara concludes that, once gold has been refined to its fullest,
it is quite feasible to say that it cannot be reduced any further.
(a) There were thirteen boxes in the Beis Hamikdash. Seven were marked:
'Tiklin Chadtin', 'Tiklin Atikin', 'Kinin', 'Gozlei Olah', 'Eitzim',
'Levonah', 'Zahav le'Kapores'. The other six were marked as 'Nedavah'.
(b) The box marked ...
(c) The gold in the box marked 'Zahav le'Kapores' - was used to purchase
K'lei Shares (the Tana calls it 'Kapores' because of the bowls for the
blood, which are called 'Kipurei Zahav').
- ... 'Tiklin Atikin' - was used for last year's half-Shekalim that the owners brought only this year.
- ... 'Kinin' - to buy large pigeons.
- ... 'Gozlei Olah' - to buy young doves.
- ... 'Eitzim' - was used to buy wood for the Ma'arachah.
- ... 'Levonah' - to buy frankincense that people had donated.
(d) According to Rebbi Yehudah, all the birds purchased with the money from
the boxes marked 'Kinin' and 'Gozlei Olah' were Olos. The Chachamim say
- ... 'Kinin' - comprises an Olah and a Chatas.
- ... 'Gozlei Olah' - are both Olos (like Rebbi Yehudah).
(a) The minimum a person would be required to bring if he said that he would
(b) One could donate as little as he wanted, provide he explicitly said so.
- ... 'Eitzim' - is two blocks of wood.
- ... 'Levonah' - is one fistful of Levonah.
- ... 'Zahav' - is one golden Dinar.
(c) "Asham Hu" - implies that the Nedavah remains an Asham, that is eaten by
Kohanim; whereas "Ashom Asham la'Hashem" - implies that it goes entirely to
(d) Yehoyada ha'Kohen explained that the money of Nedavah was used to buy
Olos, whose flesh went to Hashem, and the skin, to the Kohanim. In this way,
both Pesukim were implemented.
(a) Rebbi Yehudah says that there was no box for Kinei Chovah - because he
is concerned that someone who placed money in the Kinim box may die, and
seeing as 'Chatas she'Meisu Ba'leha', all the money in the box will become
Pasul and will have to go to the Yam ha'Melach.
(b) The Beraisa permits a woman who gave birth or who just finished her term
of Zivus, to place the money for her birds in the box marked 'Kinin' - and
she was permitted to eat Kodshim as from the following day. This is because
she can rely on the officers to empty the box and bring the Korbanos on that
same day. The officers, on the other hand, did not need to worry about the
possibility that the owner may die. This appears to clash with Rebbi
Yehudah, who *is* concerned that the person may die (although the Kashya
itself is unclear, since the author of this Beraisa, who maintains that the
Kinin included Chata'os, must be the Rabbanan, and not Rebbi Yehudah)?
(c) Rebbi Yehudah is concerned that the owner may die, and that all the
birds in the box will then become forbidden. He agrees with the Beraisa
however, that we do not contend with the suspicion that the owner may have
already died, as long as we do not know that he has.
(d) It will not help, according to Rebbi Yehudah to take four (small) Zuzim
- the value of the Chatas - and throw them into the Yam ha'Melach, because
Rebbi Yehudah holds 'Ein Bereirah' (it will not become established
retroactively that the money which they throw into the Yam ha'Melach was
that of the Chatas). (Note: It seems that the Rabbanan, who hold that the
Kinin *do* incorporate Chata'os, hold 'Yesh Bereirah', in which case, even
if one of the owners dies, they can take out four Zuzim and throw them into
the Yam ha'Melach.)
(a) Someone who says 'Harei Alai Eitz' - needs to bring only *one* piece of
(b) We prove this from a Mishnah in Yoma - which states that two Kohanim
carried two pieces of wood, one piece for each Kohen (which proves that one
piece of wood is considered a Korban).
(c) Each piece of wood had to measure a square Amah thick and was an Amah in
length. However, the thickness of the wood was measured by a large Amah, and
the length, by an exact Amah. Consequently, the pieces were not cubes.
(d) Some compare the thickness of the wood to a 'Turteni' - the measuring-
stem of a pair of scales. This opinion disagrees with the previous one,
which gives the thickness of the wood as an Amah.
(a) The piece of wood was deliberately made in such a way as so to be a bit
less than a cubic Amah - because otherwisw, it would not have been possible
to fit it on to the Mekom ha'Ma'arachah, which was also an Amah square (and
one cannot fit something that is a Amah square on to an area which is also a
(b) The Gemara proves that the Mekom ha'Ma'arachah (the area on the
Mizbe'ach where the Korbanos were burnt) was exactly one Amah square - from
the fact that the Karkov (the area where the Kohanim walked) was an Amah,
and each Keren was also an Amah. Consequently, if we deduct four Amos (of
the two Keranos and the two opposite sides of the Karkov) from the five Amos
by five Amos of the Mizbe'ach, we are left with one Amah by one Amah in the
middle for the Me'kom ha'Ma'arachah.
(c) We learn that the Levonah had to consist of a Kometz (a fistful) from a
Gezeirah Shavah 'Azkarah' 'Azkarah' - from the Korban Minchah.
(d) The Gemara suggests that someone who donates Levonah should give *two*
1. ... because we should learn it from the Lechem ha'Panim (where there were
*two* Kematzim, one for each row of loaves).
2. Rebbi Iyla rejects this suggestion - from the very fact that we learn the
measure of a Kometz from the Lechem ha'Panim. Why is that? Because by the
Lechem ha'Panim, each of the two Kematzim must be complete, and if one of
them is short (even though the other one supplements the missing measure),
the Levonah is Pasul, a clear indication that each Kometz is considered a
separate entity (like a separate Korban).
(a) We derive from Rebbi Iyla that whoever donated Levonah, had to bring,
not his own fistful, but that of the biggest Kohen serving that day in the
Beis Hamikdash - from the fact that he derives it from the Lechem ha'Panim
(and by the Lechem ha'Panim, they would not know in advance which Kohen
would do the Avodah of the Levonah. Consequently, they would have to provide
sufficient Levonah for the largest Kohen present, in order to take his
Kometz-full, should he turn out to be the Kohen to bring the Levonah.
(b) According to Rebbi Chizkiyah quoting Rebbi Yirmiyah - the donor needed
to give his own fistful (and did not need to contend with the size of the
(c) Someone who said that he would donate 'gold' to Hekdesh - had to donate
sufficient gold to construct the smallest usable vessel (i.e. a small fork).
1. The six Batei Avos - were the six divisions into which the weekly Beis-Av
(also known as a Mishmar - who served that week in the Beis Hamikdash) were
divided. Each one served on a different day of the week. When the Nedavos
were brought on the Mizbe'ach, the Kohanim received the skins. Each Beis-Av
its own box, so that the one should not be able to accuse the other of
receiving the skins that were rightfully theirs. All the Batei-Avos served
together on Shabbos however, in order to promote peace (because Shabbos is
called 'Shabbos Shalom').
(b) According to Rebbi Yochanan, the reason for the large number of boxes
for Nedavah is because of the large amount of money that went into them (in
order to distribute the money evenly, to prevent it from going bad - due to
the pressure of so many coins).
2. The six animals were - a bull, a calf, a goat, a ram, a kid-goat and a
lamb (comprising all the animals from which a Korban Olah could be brought).
3. The six Korbanos were - Kinei Zavin ve'Zavos, Kinei Yoldos, Chata'os,
Ashamos, Asiris ha'Eifah (like Rebbi Elazar on Daf 6b, Menachos (i.e. Mosar
Minchas Chotei). The leftovers of any of these were placed in its respective
box and used for Kayitz Olas ha'Mizbe'ach.
(a) According to Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael, despite the apparent
contradiction in the Pesukim, there was only one box. Yehoyada ha'Kohen made
a box and placed it on the right-hand side of the Mizbe'ach. The King
however, moved it to outside the gate - to enable people who were Tamei to
place their money there, too.
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(b) Rebbi Chona proves from the Pasuk in Melachim "Ach Lo Ye'aseh Beis
Hashem Sipos Kesef Mezamros" ... that there must have been *two* boxes.
Because from that Pasuk it is clear that they did not purchase K'lei Shares
from the main donation that was placed beside the Mizbe'ach inside the
Azarah. In that case, the Pasuk in Divrei Hayamim, which says that they did
indeed construct K'lei Shares, must be speaking about the proceeds from the
box that was placed outside the gate.