ANSWERS TO REVIEW QUESTIONS
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Yevamos 82
(a) According to Rebbi Yochanan, it is easy to understand why the piece of
Chatas which is Tahor does not become Bateil - because it is logical to say
that the Rabbanan would decree when faced with the combination of factors
1. that it is an Isur d'Oraysa and 2. that is Darko Limanos 3. when the
loss to the owner is only minimal.
(b) The problem according to Resh Lakish is - since, in his opinion, the
reason that it is Bateil in the Reisha is because melted Isur is not
Chashuv, then why should the fact that the piece is Tahor make any
(a) Rav Shisha Brei de'Rav Idi explains that, according to Resh Lakish, the
Reisha speaks by Tum'as Mashkin (that the piece of Chatas became Tamei
through liquid that touched a vessel which renders it Tamei
mi'de'Rabbanan), which is Bateil - because of a combination of the fact that
Tum'as Mashkin is mi'de'Rabbanan, and because it is 'Ein Darko Limanos'.
(b) The reason that the piece is not Bateil in the Seifa is - due to the
fact that, since all the pieces are Tahor (Min be'Mino), and, in addition,
it is a question of Kodshim to a Zar (which is an Isur d'Oraysa), this Tana
holds 'Min be'Mino, Eino Bateil' by a d'Oraysa (like Rebbi Yehudah holds
even by de'Rabbanans).
(c) If the Reisha was speaking about Tum'as Sheretz (rather than Tum'as
Mashkin) - the piece would not become Bateil.
(d) The Tana in the Seifa preferred not to remain with a piece of *Tamei*
Chatas meat that fell into Tahor pieces, but when the piece became Tamei
through a Sheretz (to remain with Tum'ah and Taharah, like in the Reisha),
but to speak about Chulin and Kodshim, because Tehoros that fell into
Tehoros is a bigger Chidush (as we explained above.
(a) To explain the Reisha and the Seifa of the Beraisa according to Resh
Lakish, Rabah establishes the Beraisa by meat of Kodshim that did not melt,
and the former is Bateil because it is only a La'av, whereas the latter is
not, because it is a case of Kareis. The Reisha is only a La'av -
"ve'ha'Basar Asher Yiga be'Chol Tamei" (Tzav - which teaches us the
prohibition of eating Kodshim meat that became Tamei); whereas the Seifa is
Kareis "ve'ha'Nefesh Asher Tochal Basar ... " (also in Tzav - which teaches
us that someone who eats Kodshim when *he* is Tamei, is Chayav Kareis) This
is in accordance with Rashi's first explanation.
(b) The problem with this answer is from Rabah's very own words later in
ha'Ishah Basra - where he distinctly states that there is no reason to make
a distinction between an Isur La'av and an Isur Kareis, seeing as both are
(c) Rav Ashi ascribes the piece not becoming Bateil in the Seifa, to the
fact that it is a 'Davar she'Yesh Lo Matirin'. That is ridiculous however -
because 'Davar she'Yesh Lo Matirin', by definition, means that the object
will become permitted to the same person to whom it was forbidden (not that
it is permitted to someone else, as Rav Ashi understands); and, in this
case, it remains permitted to the Kohanim and forbidden to Yisre'eilim.
(a) The Tana of the Beraisa says that, if two piles of wheat, one of Chulin
and one of Terumah fell into two boxes, one containing Chulin and the other,
Terumah, and we don't know which pile fell into which box - that both boxes
remain as they were, because we assume that the Terumah fell into the
Terumah and the Chulin into the Chulin.
(b) Resh Lakish maintains that the Chulin box remains Chulin and is
permitted to Yisre'eilim - only if there *is a majority* of Chulin against
the pile that fell into it.
(c) Rebbi Yochanan permits it - even if there is *not*.
(d) Rebbi Yochanan said earlier that Terumah nowadays is d'Oraysa. In that
case - how can we possibly assume that the Terumah fell into the Terumah and
the Chulin into the Chulin (an assumption that is normally restricted to
(a) Rebbi Yochanan answers that the author of this Beraisa is the Rabbanan,
whereas his previous statement is according to Rebbi Yossi - who says that
the second Yerushah (when Yisrael re-possessed Eretz Yisrael after Galus
Bavel) was permanent, and did not fall away when Titus exiled them to Rome.
(b) The Seder Olam Darshens from the Pasuk "Asher Yarshu Avosecha
vi'Yerishtah" - 'Yerushah Rishonah u'Sh'ni'ah Yesh Lahen (i.e. that the
first Yerushah became Bateil and required a second one when they returned
from Bavel), Sh'lishis Ein Lahen'.
(c) He made his initial statement (permitting the wife of an Androginus to
eat Chazeh ve'Shok as well as Terumah) according to the opinion of Rebbi
Yossi - because Rebbi Yossi is the Tana in our Mishnah who holds that an
Androginus is a Vaday Zachar who feeds his wife Terumah.
(d) He knows that the opinion cited in the Seder Olam is that of Rebbi
Yossi - because, as he himself testified, the author of Seider Olam is Rebbi
(a) The Mishnah in Mikva'os says that a Mikvah of forty Sa'ah to which one
added a Sa'ah of fruit juice (or of drawn water), and then took one Sa'ah
away - remains Kasher.
(b) If one reversed the process, taking away a Sa'ah first and then adding
the Sa'ah - the Mikvah would be Pasul.
(c) Rebbi Yochanan is quoted as saying that, assuming that one keeps on
doing this, it is only permitted up to a majority. Bearing in mind that
Rebbi Yochanan just said that, in the case of the boxes, where it is only a
Din de'Rabbanan, no majority is needed, we think that the two statements
clash - because initially, we understand him to mean that the majority of
the Mikvah must remain (i.e. at least twenty one Sa'ah of Kasher water).
(d) What he really meant however - was that it is only permitted as long as
one does not remove a majority of Kasher water (i.e. that twenty Sa'ah
(a) Resh Lakish, who forbids the wife of an Androginus to eat Chazeh
ve'Shok, will amend the Mishnah, which states 'Androginus Nosei' - to read '
... Im Nasa, Nasuy'.
(b) We try to prove from the Lashon 'Aval Lo Nisa' - that, just as there,
the Tana means Bedieved, so too, does he mean Bedieved in the Reisha (as we
(c) In fact, there is no proof from there, because there is no reason why
the Reisha should not mean Lechatchilah (as it implies - leaving us with a
Kashya on Resh Lakish), despite the fact that the Seifa is Bedieved.
(d) If, as we conclude, 'Nosei' means Lechatchilah, because the Tana Kama
considers him a Vaday Zachar, his opinion will differ from that of Rebbi
Eliezer, who says 'Androginus Chayavin Alav S'kilah ke'Zachar'
- inasmuch as the Tana Kama considers him a Zachar, but nevertheless
obligates someone who commits adultery with him even from his Makom Nakvus;
whereas Rebbi Eliezer says 'ke'Zachar', implying but not from his Makom