REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafYoma 22
***** Perek Barishonah *****
(a) Before they initiated the Payis for Terumas ha'Deshen, which Kohen would
(b) What would they do ...
(c) In the latter case, how many Kohanim would participate in the ensuing
- ... if two people wanted to perform it?
- ... if they both arrived within the last four Amos simultaneously?
(d) They later changed to determine who would perform the Terumas ha'Deshen
by means of a Payis.
What caused them to withdraw the previous method?
(a) Seeing as the remaining three Payisos had been in effect for a long
time, why did they not institute a Payis for the Terumas ha'Deshen until
after the calamity that occurred?
(b) Then why did they initiate a Payis for bringing up the limbs of the
Tamid shel Bein ha'Arbayim on to the Mizbe'ach, even though that too, was a
(c) Rebbi Yochanan's statement (to do with the Kidush Yadayim ve'Raglayim
for the Terumas ha'Deshen) led us to believe that the Terumas ha'Deshen was
also the beginning of the *day*-Avodah (repudiating the distinction between
Terumas ha'Deshen and bringing up the limbs - that we just made).
we amend Rebbi Yochanan's statement?
(a) According to the Gemara's second explanation, Chazal did not include
Terumas ha'Deshen in the original Payisos, because they assumed that the
Kohanim would have difficulty in getting up in the morning.
Answers to questions
Then why did
they include the bringing of the limbs of yesterday's Korban?
(b) It appears from the Beraisa that the Payis for the Terumas ha'Deshen was
*not a new* institution, but had always been connected with the arranging of
the wood on the Ma'arachah and the placing of the two logs of wood there.
How do we reconcile this with our Mishnah, which presents it as a *new*
(c) When the two Kohanim raced up the ramp, the one who reached within four
Amos performed the Avodah.
Why does Rav Papa take for granted that this
does not refer to ...
(d) What is Rav Papa uncertain about? What is his She'eilah?
- ... the four Amos preceding the ramp?
- ... the first four Amos from the foot of the ramp and upwards?
- ... Somewhere in the middle of the ramp?
(a) Why did they count the fingers and not the people?
(b) We initially try to present the source for this as the Pasuk in Shmuel
How do we then interpret the word 'Bezek'?
(c) How do we refute this contention?
(d) The true source for the prohibition of counting Yisrael is a Pasuk in
Hoshei'a "Vehayah B'nei Yisrael ke'Chol ha'Yam Asher Lo Yimad ve'Lo
What does Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak learn from "Lo Yimad ve'Lo
(a) We first explain that the beginning of the above Pasuk "Vehayah B'nei
Yisrael ke'Chol ha'Yam" (implying that the numbers of Yisrael will be
countable) speaks when Yisrael do *not* behave as they should, whereas the
end "Asher Lo Yimad ve'Lo Yisafer" (which implies that they will be too
numerous to count) - speaks when they *do*.
What is the Gemara's second
(b) How does Shmuel explain the change in the Pasuk in Shmuel, which
describes how Shaul first counted the people with pieces of earthenware, and
later with lambs?
(a) The Pasuk in Shmuel writes about King Shaul "Vayarev ba'Nachal". If
'Nachal" is a hint to 'the Nachal Eisan' (in the Parshah of Eglah Arufah),
what does the Pasuk refer to?
(b) A Heavenly Voice announced a Pasuk in Koheles.
(c) What did he do that gave occasion to a second Heavenly Voice to announce
"Al Tirsha Harbeh"!?
(a) What is the meaning of 'Shaul be'Achas ve'Alsah Lo, David bi'Shetayim
ve'Lo Alsah Lo'?
(b) What does the Gemara learn from here?
(c) What did Shaul do to lose the kingship?
(d) Why does the Gemara not include the unjust killing of Nov, the city of
Kohanim, making it *two* sins?
(a) Which two sins of King David is the Gemara referring to?
(b) Why is the sin of Bas Sheva not included, making it *three*?
(c) How was David punished fourfold?
(d) This answer is rejected on the grounds that all these punishment did not
strike his body. Otherwise, we could not have included the sin of counting
the people either.
(a) In the final analysis, why is the sin of Bas Sheva not included? Which
bodily punishment did he receive for that sin?
(b) At first, we explain that our Sugya does not count the sin of accepting
Lashon ha'Ra from the slave of Mefivoshes (Yonasan's son), because Rav Huna
(who is the author of this Sugya) holds like Shmuel, in whose opinion David
in fact, did *not* accept Lashon ha'Ra.
Is it possible to justify Rav
Huna's omission of this sin - even according to Rav?
(a) How do we explain the Pasuk in Shmuel "Ben Shanah Shaul be'Molcho"?
Answers to questions
(b) What happened to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak ...
1. ... when he suggested that perhaps the Pasuk means to say that Shaul was
dirty with sin like a year-old baby?
(c) According to Rebbi Yochanan quoting Rebbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak, the
reason that Shaul's descendents did not inherit the kingdom from their
father was because there was no Pesul Dofi.
2. ... when he asked for forgiveness from the bones of Shaul ben Kish?
What does this mean? How did
David have an advantage over him in this way?
(d) What reason does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav give for Shaul losing his kingdom?