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1) WHEN IS ONE LIABLE FOR TUM'AH?
(a) Question: Reish Lakish needs the verse to teach about a
Tamei who ate Kodesh before Zerikah!
2) OFFERING OTHER ANIMALS
1. (Reish Lakish): If a Tamei ate Kodesh before
Zerikah, he is lashed;
(b) Answer: If it said 'B'Kodesh Lo Siga...", Reish Lakish
would only learn after Zerikah;
i. He learns from "B'Chol Kodesh Lo Siga" - before
or after Zerikah;
2. (R. Yochanan): He is not lashed;
i. (Bardela - Beraisa): We learn "Tum'aso-
Tum'aso" from a Tamei who entered the Mikdash -
just as that is Chayavei Kerisus and a verse
forbids it, also a Tamei who eats Kodesh;
ii. We learn about eating Kodesh *after* Zerikah,
for that is Chayavei Kerisus, like entering the
1. Rather, it says "B'Chol Kodesh...", to include
(c) (Abaye): Reish Lakish and R. Yochanan argue about Tum'as
Guf (a Tamei who ate Kodshim), but they agree that he is
lashed for Tum'as Basar (if the Kodesh is Tamei);
1. (Beraisa): "Veha'Basar" - this includes wood and
frankincense (even though they are not foods, Chibas
ha'Kodesh causes them to be Mekabel Tum'ah, one who
eats them when they are Tamei is liable - all the
more so, one who eats Tamei meat before Zerikah is
(d) (Rava): They argue about Tum'as Guf, but they agree that
he is exempt for Tum'as Basar;
1. Since "(Veha'Nefesh Asher Tochal)...v'Tumaso Alav
v'Nichresah" does not apply before Zerikah (there is
no Kares), also "Veha'Basar Asher Yiga b'Chol Tamei
Lo Ye'achel" does not apply.
(e) Question (Beraisa): "Veha'Basar" includes wood and
(f) Answer: The case is, it was Mekudash in a vessel, this is
like offering all the Matirim:
1. (Mishnah): Something which becomes permitted through
offering Matirim (e.g. Zerikas Dam permits eating
the meat), one is liable for eating it b'Tum'ah
after the Matirim are offered;
2. Something which has no Matirim (e.g. Kometz or
frankincense) one is liable for eating it b'Tum'ah
after it is Mekudash by putting it in a Kli Shares.
(a) Version #1 (Reish Lakish): If one offers limbs of a Tamei
animal on the Mizbe'ach, he is lashed;
1. It is an Ase to offer Tahor animals, from this we
infer a Lav not to offer Tamei animals - one is
lashed for a Lav inferred from an Ase.
(b) (R. Yochanan): He is not lashed;
1. He holds that one is not lashed for a Lav inferred
from an Ase.
(c) Question (against Reish Lakish - R. Yirmeyah - Beraisa):
"Osah (an animal with split hooves that chews the cud)
Tochelu" - but not other animals;
(d) Version #2 (Yakov): Reish Lakish and R. Yochanan agree
that one is not lashed for offering limbs of a Tamei
1. They argue about offering a Chayah:
(e) Question (Rava - Beraisa): Had it said 'Korban la'Sh-m
Behemah', this would include Chayos;
2. (R. Yochanan): One who offers a Chayah transgresses
3. It is an Ase to offer Behemos, we infer a
prohibition (Isur Ase) not to offer Chayos;
4. (Reish Lakish): He does not transgress anything;
i. It is a Mitzvah to offer Behemos, it is Reshus
(neither a Mitzvah nor an Aveirah) to offer
1. We find that "Behemah" includes Chayos - "Zos
ha'Behemah...wild goat and deer...";
2. Therefore, it says "Bakar" and "Tzon", to exclude
3. Suggestion: Perhaps one should not bring, but if he
did, it is Kosher!
i. This is like a Talmid whose Rebbi told him
'Bring to me wheat', and he brought wheat and
barley - he did not transgress the command, he
added to it;
4. Rejection: "Bakar" and "Tzon" are repeated, to
exclude a Chayah (even b'Diavad, it is Pasul);
i. This is like a Rebbi who said 'Bring to me
*only* wheat', and the Talmid brought wheat and
barley - he did not add to the command, he
(f) This refutes Reish Lakish.
3) WHAT MAKES "SHIRAYIM"?
(a) (Mishnah): If any of these Pesulim was Mekabel...
(b) Version #1 - Question (Reish Lakish): If a Pasul did
Zerikah, does he make (the remaining blood in the animal)
Shirayim (i.e. useless, for the Korban became Pasul)?
(c) Answer (R. Yochanan): He makes Shirayim only if he was
Zorek with intention Chutz li'Zmano or Chutz li'Mkomo,
since this takes effect to make the Korban Pigul or
(d) Version #2 (Rav Zevid) Question (Reish Lakish): If a
bucket of blood became Pasul (e.g. it left the Azarah),
if it is Nizrak, does it make Shirayim?
(e) Answer (R. Yochanan): This has the same law as a Pasul
who was Zorek - if one makes Shirayim, also the other.
(f) Version #3 (R. Yirmeyah mi'Difti) Question (Abaye): If
blood was Niskabel into two buckets, if one of them is
Nizrak, does it make the other Shirayim (and it is poured
on the Yesod of the Mizbe'ach), or does it make it Dachuy
(unfit even for the Yesod, it must be spilled into the
Amah (a channel that leaves the Azarah)?
(g) Answer (Rabah): R. Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon and Chachamim
argue about this.
1. (Beraisa): It says "V'Es Damo Yishpoch", and it says
"V'Es *Kol* Damah Yishpoch";
i. If Kabalah of blood of a Chatas was done in
four buckets, and blood from each of them was
put on a Keren of the Mizbe'ach, the remaining
blood in all the buckets is poured on the Yesod
- "V'Es Kol Damah Yishpoch";
2. R. Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon says, even in the latter
case, all the remaining blood is poured on the Yesod
- V'Es Kol Damah Yishpoch";
ii. Suggestion: If the blood was received in four
buckets, and blood was put on all the Keranos
from one of them, perhaps all the remaining
blood is poured on the Yesod!
iii. Rejection: "V'Es Damo Yishpoch" (not all the
blood) - the remaining blood from the one
bucket (from which blood was put) is poured on
the Yesod, the others are poured into the Amah.
3. Question: What does he learn from "V'Es Damo
4. Answer (Rav Ashi): The remaining blood in the animal
is not poured on the Yesod.
(a) (Mishnah): If a Kosher Kohen did Kabalah and gave it to a
(b) The Mishnah must teach all three cases.
1. If it only taught giving it to a Pasul, one might
have thought that this refers only to a Tamei, for
he is Kosher for Avodas Tzibur (if no Tahor Kohen is
available), but if it was transferred to the left
hand, the Korban is Pasul;
(c) Question: We should say that Dichuy applies (since the
blood could not be offered while the Pasul (or left hand
or Chulin vessel) was holding it!)
2. If it only taught transferring to the left hand, one
might have thought that this can be fixed because
the left hand is used for Avodah on Yom Kipur, but
if it was put into a Chulin vessel, the Korban is
3. If it only taught putting into a Chulin vessel, one
might have thought that this can be fixed because
one could Makdish the vessel, but other Pesulim
(which cannot be fixed) would Posel the Korban.
(d) Answer #1 (Ravina citing Rava): Our Mishnah is like
Chanan ha'Mitzri, who says that Dichuy does not apply
even to a slaughtered animal.
1. (Beraisa - Chanan ha'Mitzri): If the goat sent to
Azazel (on Yom Kipur) died after slaughtering the
goat selected for Hash-m, we find another goat to
send to Azazel.
(e) Answer #2 (Rav Ashi): (All agree with our Mishnah -)
whenever we can (Tosfos - should) remedy the situation,
Dichuy does not apply.
(f) Support (Rav Shiya): R. Yehudah says that Dichuy
applies...(this will be continued)
1. (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): If the goat selected for
Hash-m was slaughtered and the blood spilled, the
goat selected for Azazel must die (and two new goats
are taken); if the goat selected for Azazel died, we
spill the blood of the slaughtered goat.
(g) (Continuation of support): Even R. Yehudah agrees that
when Dichuy can be fixed, it does not apply!
1. (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): (After the Korbanos Pesach
were offered,) they would gather a bucket from the
blood on the floor from all the Korbanos and throw
it on the Mizbe'ach, to Machshir a Korban (in case
its blood spilled).
2. Chachamim: The blood (fell straight from the animal,
it) was never received in a vessel (it does not help
to gather it from the floor)!
3. Question: How do Chachamim know this?!
4. Correction - Chachamim: Perhaps the blood was never
received in a vessel!
5. R. Yehudah: We do this because (at least some of)
the blood was received in a vessel (and later
6. Question: How does R. Yehudah know this?!
7. Answer: Kohanim are zealous. (Surely they received
8. (Text of Shitah Mekubetzes - Question: If so, why
did it spill?
9. Answer: Because they are zealous,) they work
quickly, therefore it spilled.