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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Zevachim 64
ZEVACHIM 64-65 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of
love for the Torah and for those who study it.
(a) From "Ki Chatas Hi" we learn that Chatas ha'Of requires he south-western
corner, and from the Pasuk ...
1. ... "ve'Hegishah el Pnei ha'Mizbe'ach" - that the Minchah must be brought
to the south-western corner, too.
(b) We learned in our Mishnah that the Avodah of the Olas ha'Of is performed
initially by the south-eastern corner - because, says Rebbi Yochanan, the
Kohen had to throw the innards to the Makom ha'Deshen, on the east side of
2. ... "ve'es Kol Dam ha'Par Yishpoch el Yesod ha'Mizbe'ach" - that the
Shefichas Shirayim of the Chatas is poured there as well (as we learned
earlier from the blood of the Chata'os ha'Penimiyos).
(c) Rebbi Yochanan commented - on the immense strength of the Kohanim, who
had to throw the very light crop and intestines of the bird a distance of
more than thirty Amos to the Beis-ha'Deshen (whenever they brought it to the
(d) Besides the crop and intestines of the Olas ha'Of and the Terumas
ha'Deshen each morning - the Dishun Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi and the Dishun
ha'Menorah were placed on the Beis ha'Deshen.
(a) The source for this is the Mishnah in Tamid, which discusses the Terumas
ha'Deshen. The Kohen took the silver shovel full of ashes each morning -
from the most spent ashes in the middle of the Ma'arachah.
(b) Once he arrived at the foot of the ramp with the ashes - he turned round
and walked along the east side of the ramp.
(c) He ...
1. ... would walk with the ashes - ten Amos before depositing them ...
(d) When he brought the Olas ha'Of on the south-eastern corner, he stood on
the Sovev - but on the roof of the Mizbe'ach, when he brought it on the
south-western corner, since there was no small ramp leading from the central
ramp to the Sovev on that side, as we learned earlier.
2. ... three Tefachim away from the ramp.
(a) From ...
1. ... the spot where the Kohen stood when he threw the crop ... to the
eastern edge of the ramp was - twenty-two Amos (six Amos from the Makom
Hiluch ha'Kohanim to the north of the Keren until the ramp, plus the sixteen
Amos of the ramp).
(b) From the point where he stood when he threw the crop, to the
Beis-ha'Deshen was - just over thirty-one Amos (if we reckon the diagonal of
a square as one and two-fifth Amos per Amah of one of the sides, and bearing
in mind that the Beis-ha'Deshen was half an Amah distance from the ramp.
2. ... the edge of the Mizbe'ach to the Beis-ha'Deshen was - also twenty-two
(c) Rebbi Yochanan referred to thirty Amos and not thirty-one - since he did
not reckon the Amah in which the Kohen was standing.
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that the only occasions that the Kohen turned
left for the south-western corner was for the Nisuch ha'Yayin, the Nisuch
ha'Mayim and the Olas ha'Of (when it was brought there). The reason Rebbi
Yochanan gives for ...
1. ... the Nesachim is - that the wine might become affected by the smoke of
the Ma'arachah, and we learned in Menachos that smoked wine is Pasul for the
(b) If the Kohen Gadol declares that he wishes to bring the Olah that the
other Kohen are already holding - then the they are obigated to relinquish
their rights and hand the pieces of that Korban to the Kohen Gadol to throw
on to the Ma'arachah.
2. ... the Olas ha'Of is - that the bird might die from the smoke of the
(c) The Mishnah describes how he then has to turn right and walk round the
Mizbe'ach until he reaches the south-western Keren where he performs the
Nisuch ha'Yayin. Initially, we interpret 'Nasnu Lo Yayin la'Nesech' to
mean - that they already handed him the Nesachim before he began walking
round the Mizbe'ach (despite the possibility that the smoke will affect the
wine), a Kashya on Rebbi Yochanan.
(a) Rebbi Yochanan replied 'Hakafah be'Regel' - by which he meant - that the
Kohen Hadol was only handed the wine for the Nisuch when he arrived at the
south-western corner of the Mizbe'ach; when he walked round the Mizbe'ach,
he walked round empty-handed.
(b) He did that - only to conform with the normal procedure (to walk round
the Mizbe'ach from left to right).
(c) This problem is peculiar to the Kohen Gadol - since he is the only one
to perform the double Avodah. Other Kohanim either sacrificed the Korban or
performed Nisuch ha'Yayin, but not both.
(d) Rava proves Rebbi Yochanan right from the Lashon of the Mishnah 'Nasnu
Lo Yayin Lenasech' - implying that they handed him the wine when he came to
pour it out. Otherwise, the Tama ought to have said 'Omer Lo Nasech!'
(seeing as he was already holding the wine in his hand).
(a) The Beraisa reiterates what we learned in the Mishnah, listing the two
Nisuchim and the Olas ha'Of as the only exceptions to the rule of always
going to the right. The problem with the Lashon of the Beraisa 'Olin Derech
Ma'arav Ve'yordin Derech Ma'arav, Olin Derech Yemin Ve'yordin Derech h
Yemin' is - that the Tana ought to have said 'Olin Derech S'mol Ve'yordin
(b) Ravina amends the Beraisa - to read 'S'mol' instead of 'Yemin'.
(c) Rava answers that whereas 'S'mol' refers to the left of the Kohen,
'Yemin' refers to the right of the Mizbe'ach - because the south of the
Mizbe'ach is the front (as we have already learned). Consequently, the
Kohen's left, is the Mizbe'ach's right.
(d) The problem with Rava's answer is - that the Tana is inconsistent,
referring in the Reisha to the right of the Kohen, and in the Seifa to the
right of the Mizbe'ach.
(a) The Mishnah continues to discuss the Chatas ha'Of, whose Melikah is
performed ''mi'Mul Oref''. "Oref" is - the back of the head opposite the
face, and "Mul Oref", is the part of the neck that is below that point.
(b) We learn from the Pasuk "ve'Lo Yavdil" - that the Kohen only cuts
through one of the two Simanim (pipes), but not both.
(c) After performing the Haza'ah - the Kohen performs Mitzuy, squeezing the
neck on to the wall of the Mizbe'ach, for the blood to drip down to the
(d) The Tana states that the entire body of the bird besides the blood - is
eaten by the Kohanim.
(a) According to the Tana of a Beraisa, the Haza'ah of a Chatas ha'Of, as
opposed to the Matnos Dam of a Chatas Beheimah or of an Olas Beheimah - is
sprinkled (not with the finger, like the former, nor from a bowl, like the
latter, but) directly from the bird's neck towards the Mizbe'ach.
(b) The blood must be sprinkled on the wall of the Mizbe'ach - and not on
the wall of the Kevesh (the ramp), the Heichal or the Ulam.
(c) Bearing in mind that the blood of a Chatas Beheimah is sprinkled above
the Chut ha'Sikra, and the blood of an Olas Beheimah below it, we would have
thought that the blood of a Chatas ha'Of is sprinkled above it, too -
because if the blood of a Chatas Beheimah (whose Olah counterpart is
sprinkled below the Chut ha'Sikra, is sprinkled above it), then the blood of
a Chatas ha'Of, whose Olah counterpart is sprinkled above the Chut ha'Sikra,
should certainly be sprinkled above it.
(a) The Beraisa learns from "ve'ha'Nish'ar ba'Dam Yimatzeh el Yesod
ha'Mizbe'ach" - that the blood of the Chatas ha'Of must be sprinkled below
the Chut ha'Sikra, so that it can drip down to the Yesod.
(b) The problem if the blood was sprinkled above the Chut ha'Sikra would
be - that if the Kohen were to sprinkle it above the Sovev (which is
situated above the Chut ha'Sikra), then it would drip on to the Sovev, and
not on to the Yesod.
(c) We ask that perhaps "Yimatzeh" simply means that after the Haza'ah, the
Kohen must perform Mitzuy too (which is in fact, the case).
(d) We answer - that the Torah ought then to have written "Yematzeh" (or
"Yamtzeh"). "Yimatzeh" (which also has connotations of being ready or
available ['Matzuy'] teaches us that, in addition, the blood of the Haza'ah
should be ready to drip down to the Yesod.
(a) To perform the Melikah, Rav Zutra bar Tuvya informs us, the Kohen held
the bird's wings - between his little and index fingers, and its two feet
between the middle and the fore fingers ...
(b) ... whilst the body of the bird lay in the palm of his hand.
(c) Whilst performing the Melikah, he held its neck in between his
forefinger and his thumb, the back of the neck facing his thumb.
(d) The Beraisa differs from Rav Zutra bar Tuvya. According to the Tana, the
bird was lying - on the back of his hand.
(a) The Beraisa concludes 'Zu Hi Avodah Kashah she'be'Mikdash'. Kemitzah and
Chafinah were equally difficult. The difficult part of the Kemitzah was -
the removal of the excess flour that protruded from the sides of the
half-closed fist, using his thumb and little finger.
(b) The Chafinah was - taking the fistful of Ketores on Yom-Kipur to bring
into the Kodesh Kodshim.
(c) We therefore amend the Lashon of the Beraisa 've'Zu Hi Avodah Kashah
she'ba'Mikdash' to read - 've'Zu Avodah Kashah me'Avodos Kashos
(a) The Tana then discusses the Olas ha'Of - which was generally performed
by the south-eastern Keren, whilst the Kohen stood on the Sovev.
(b) What distinguished the Melikah of the Olas ha'Of from that of the Chatas
ha'Of was - the fact that whereas the Kohen only cut through one of the two
Si'manim of the latter, he cut through both of the former.
(c) Immediately following the Melikah - the Kohen squeezed (Mitzuy) first
the body of the bird, then its head on the wall of the Mizbe'ach.
(d) Then, before tossing the bird's head on to the Ma'arachah - he salted
(a) Before preparing the bird's body for the Ma'arachah, he removed its crop
with its skin and feathers, and its intestines, which he threw on to the
(b) Then before tossing the body on to the Ma'arachah - he partially split
it into two by the wings.
(c) The Korban will be Kasher, even if the Kohen ...
1. ... completely split the body into two.
(d) The common principle that governs all three rulings is - that a change
in any Avodah after the Mitzuy (the Avodas ha'Dam) does not render the
2. ... tossed the body on to the Ma'arachah without removing the crop and
3. ... failed to salt the bird before burning it.
(a) The Tana rules that
1. ... 'Hivdil be'Chatas', ve'Lo Hivdil be'Olah' (with regard to Melikah)
is - Pasul.
(b) If the Kohen performed the Melikah or the Mitzuy, she'Lo li'Shemah or
li'Shemah and she'Lo li'Shemah of ...
2. ... 'Mitzah Dam ha'Rosh ve'Lo Mitzah Dam ha'Guf' is - Pasul.
3. ... 'Mitzah Dam ha'Guf ve'Lo Mitzah Dam ha'Rosh' is - Kasher.
1. ... a Chatas ha'Of - the Korban is Pasul ...
2. ... an Olas ha'Of - it is Kasher (only the owner has not fulfilled his
obligation [just like a Chatas Beheimah]).
(a) If the Kohen performed the Melikah or the Mitzuy of a Chatas ha'Of with
the intention of eating something that is normally eaten, or of an Olas
ha'Of with the intention of burning something that is normally burned ...
1. ... Chutz li'Mekomo - they are Pasul.
(b) The Chiyuv Kareis takes effect - only on condition that the Korban is
otherwise brought 'like its Mitzvah'.
2. ... Chutz li'Zemano - they are Pasul and anyone who eats them is Chayav
(c) This incorporates where the Kohen performed either the Melikah or the
Mitzuy, S'tam and the other one with a Mechsheves Chutz li'Zemano,
vice-versa or where he performed both Avodos with a 'Machsheves Chutz
(d) The three cases listed by the Tana to demonstrate 'Lo Karev ha'Matir
ke'Mitzvaso' are - where either the Kohen performed either the Melikah or
the Mitzuy, or both with a Machsheves she'Lo bi'Mekomo.