REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Zevachim 3
ZEVACHIM 2-4 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the Dafyomi
shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy Neff
(a) What does the Mishnah in Gitin say about a case where someone overhears
Sofrim saying that they were writing a Get for 'Ish P'loni she'Geirash Ishah
P'lonis mi'Makom P'loni', and where all the details fit his own situation?
(b) We reject the proof from there that by Get 'S'tama ke'she'Lo Lishmah',
on the basis of Rav Papa's interpretation of the Mishnah.
How *does* Rav
Papa interpret it?
(c) What does the Beraisa say about Reuven divorcing his wife Le'ah with a
Get that was written for another Reuven, who intended to divorce his wife
Le'ah, but who changed his mind?
(d) Why is there no proof that S'tam is considered she'Lo li'Shemah from ...
- ... this Beraisa (see Tosfos DH 'Kasav Le'gareish')?
- ... the Beraisa which disqualifies a Get that Reuven wrote to divorce an older wife who is called Le'ah, from being used to divorce a younger wife with the same name?
- ... a third Beraisa, which disqualifies a Get which the Sofer writes for Reuven to divorce whichever wife he subsequently decides?
(a) What does a fourth Beraisa say about a Sofer writing skeleton Gitin?
What are they obligated to leave blank?
(b) What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav add to this?
(c) What does this prove?
(a) Rav Yehudah Amar Rav states that a Chatas that is Shechted as an Olah is
What does he say about a Chatas that is Shechted as Chulin?
(b) Which principle does Rava extrapolate from Rav Yehudah's dual ruling?
(c) What does Rava extrapolate from the Mishnah in Gitin (that we cited
earlier) 'Kol ha'Get she'Nichtav *she'Lo le'Shem Ishah* Pasul'?
(d) Why is this a Kashya on Rav Yehudah Amar Rav?
(e) How does Rava reconcile the Mishnah with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav?
(a) Rava also queried Rav Yehudah Amar Rav from another Beraisa.
the Tana mean when he learns from the Pasuk in Shemini "Tocho" (in
connection with earthenware vessels containing food or drink, in which there
is a dead Sheretz) ...
(b) What is now the Kashya on Rav from this Mishnah?
- ... "Tocho", 've'Lo Toch Tocho'?
- ... 'va'Afilu K'lei Shetef Matzil'? What are K'lei Shetef?
(c) And he answers that we compare Chulin vis-a-vis Kodshim to a wall
vis-a-vis an oven.
What does he mean by that? What is the difference
between a wall (in this regard) and a vessel?
(a) What does the Mishnah in Keilim say about a case where an oven contains
food or drink, and where they discovered a dead Sheretz on the other side of
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(b) What does the Mishnah there say in the latter case, where there is no
food or drink in the oven, but where the Sheretz is found inside the
- ... planks or a curtain with which they divided it?
- ... a broken bee-hive which they filled in with straw? What is the significance of the straw?
(c) Rebbi Eliezer there says 'Tahor', and he learns it from a 'Kal
va'Chomer' from the equivalent case of Ohel ha'Meis.
What is the gist of
the 'Kal va'Chomer'?
(d) How do the Rabbanan counter Rebbi Eliezer?
(a) The problem with Rava's initial answer to his Kashya (where he learns
'de'La'av Miynah Lo Machriv' from this Beraisa) is - from Rebbi Eliezer, who
gives vessels the same Din as a partition in this regard (and who seems to
hold that even 'de'La'av Miynah Machriv'). We answer that this is due to the
'Kal va'Chomer', which overrides the principle of 'de'La'av Miynah, Lo
On what grounds do we reject this answer?
(b) So according to Rebbi Eliezer, we establish Rav like Rebbi Elazar.
What does Rebbi Elazar learn from the Pasuk in Emor "ve'Lo Yechalelu es
Kodshei B'nei Yisrael es Asher Yarimu la'Hashem"? How does this reconcile
Rav with the Beraisa of "Tocho", 've'Lo Toch Tocho'?
(c) What problem does this answer pose (with regard to the Beraisa)?
(a) We answer that "Tocho" is needed to teach us a case where the food was
covered with clay.
What is then the Chidush?
(b) How does this answer the Kashya?
(c) In that case, how can the Rabbanan use the D'rashah of "Tocho", 've'Lo
Toch Tocho', to extrapolate that a Mechitzah of other materials does not
save the food inside an earthenware vessel from Tum'ah? Why do they not need
the Pasuk to teach us the case where the food was covered with clay?
(a) Rav rules that a Chatas which a Kohen Shechts as another Chatas is
What does he mean by 'one Chatas as another Chatas'?
(b) What does he say about a Chatas that a Kohen Shechts ...
(c) What is the problem with Rav's two dual statements?
- ... as an Olah?
- ... on behalf of someone who is Chayav another Chatas?
- ... on behalf of someone who is Chayav an Olah?
(d) How do we answer the Kashya based on the two Pesukim in Vayikra
"Ve'shachat Osah le'Chatas" (Shinuy Kodesh) and "Alav" 've'Lo al Chavero'
(a) We just learned that, by Shinuy Ba'alim, if a Kohen Shechts Reuven's
Chatas on behalf of Shimon who is Chayav another Chatas, it is Pasul,
whereas if he Shechts it on behalf of Levi who is Chayav an Olah it is
Kasher (suggesting that 'de'Bar Miynah Machriv, de'La'av Miynah Lo
Machriv'). Rav Chaviva queries this from the Beraisa of ' ''Tocho", 've'Lo
What does Rav Chaviva then hold on principle?
What is the problem?
(b) And he answers by ascribing the Din of 'Toch Tocho' to a 'Gezeiras
What does he mean when he says 'Arba'ah "Tocho" Kesivi? How
many times does "Tocho" really appear?
(c) What does he mean when says ...
(d) And what does he learn from the fourth "Tocho"?
- ... 'Chad le'Gufeih'?
- ... 'Chad li'Gezeirah-Shavah'?
- ... 'Chad, Tocho shel Zeh, ve'Lo Tocho shel Acher'? What is this coming to preclude?
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