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Zevachim 36

ZEVACHIM 36-40 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the Dafyomi shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy Neff


(a) Bearing in mind that the Torah has already written in Bo (in connection with the Korban Pesach) "Lo Sosiru Mimenu ad Boker", what does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "Lo Yani'ach Mimenu ad Boker"?

(b) The Torah writes next to it "u'Vesar Zevach *Todas* Shelamav".
What do we learn from ...

  1. ... the juxtaposition of the two Pesukim?
  2. ... the word "u'Vesar"? Which two aspects of Korban, besides Chalipin does this come to include?
(c) What is a Chalipei Todah?

(d) What happens to it?

(a) And what does the Pasuk come to include (in the list of Korbanos that can be eaten for one day) with the word ...
  1. ... "Zevach"? Which two Korbanos does this include?
  2. ... "Shelamav"? Which two Korbanos does that include?
(b) And which three types of loaves does "Korbano" incorporate?

(c) If "Lo Yani'ach" comes to teach us the time limit of all the above, how can Rebbi Yehudah learn 'Machsheves Hinu'ach from it?

(a) What problem do we have with the current source of Rebbi Yehudah ("Lo Yani'ach"), from our Mishnah Shachtan al-M'nas ... O Le'hotzi'an la'Chutz"?

(b) In addition, what reason did Rebbi Yehudah himself give to explain why Machsheves Hinu'ach is Pasul?

(c) At which stage does Hinu'ach render the Korban. Pasul?

(d) If Rebbi Yehudah's reason is based on a S'vara, what problem do we have with his opinion?

(a) What general answer do we give to explain why Rebbi Yehudah does not argue by all the cases in our Mishnah?

(b) How do we know that the Tana is speaking about the Teme'im bringing the *Eimurin*' and not the *blood*?

(c) What do we mean when we say in the second Lashon 'Kol ke'Mineih'?

(d) And why does he not then argue with the Tana Kama by ...

  1. ... 'Le'areiv Damo be'Dam Pesulim'?
  2. ... 'Litein es ha'Nitnin le'Ma'alah, le'Matah' or vice-versa?
(a) We say that Rebbi Yehudah does not argue with the Tana Kama over 'ha'Nitnim bi'Fenim she'Nasnan ba'Chutz' and vice-versa, because it is not a place that is 'Meshulash'.
What does 'Meshulash' mean?

(b) To which case does this refer?

(c) We query Rebbi Yehudah however, from another Beraisa.
What does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the Pasuk "Lo Sizbach ... Kol Davar Ra", besides the P'sul of a Chatas which is Shechted in the south?

(d) What problem does this create with what we just said?

(a) What does Rebbi Yehudah mean when he says in a Mishnah in 'Kol ha'Zevachim', 'Hichnis be'Shogeg Kasher'?

(b) We infer from there 'Ha be'Meizid Pasul'.
How do we establish the case? At which stage is the Korban Pasul?

(c) What 'Kal va'Chomer' do we Darshen from there, that clashes with what we just said?

(d) How do we then resolve the discrepancy in Rebbi Yehudah?

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(a) We also query Rebbi Yehudah with regard to his previous D'rashah from "Kol Davar Ra", that one is Chayav for Shechting a Chatas on the south side of the Azarah.
How does he Darshen the same phrase "Kol Davar Ra", in another Beraisa?

(b) And how do we resolve this discrepancy?

(a) What does Rava mean when he says 'u'Modeh Rebbi Yehudah, she'Chozer ve'Kov'o le'Pigul'?

(b) Rava tries to prove this from 'Pigul Lifnei Zerikah'.
What is he referring to?

(c) How does apply the same S'vara to Rebbi Aba's ruling?

(d) How do we refute Rava's proof?

(a) Rav Huna queries Rava (strange, since Rav Huna lived long before Rava) from the Beraisa that we discussed earlier.
What does the Tana rule there in a case where ...
  1. ... the one who Shechted the Korban had in mind to place the blood of a Korban that is normally placed above the Chut ha'Sikra, below it or vice-versa?
  2. ... by one of the subsequent Avodos, the Kohen had a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo or ...
  3. ... Chutz li'Zemano?
(b) And what does the Tana say about the Korban, in a case where, following a Machsheves Hinu'ach, but on the next day (according to Rebbi Yehudah), the Kohen subsequently had a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo or Chutz li'Zemano?

(c) What does this prove?

(a) What does Rav Chisda Amar Ravina bar Sala say about someone who has a Machshavah that Teme'im should eat the Korban Chatas tomorrow?

(b) What is the Chidush?

(c) On what grounds do we refute Rava's proof from every case of Pigul, where the Shochet or the Kohen's thoughts occur before Zerikah, when the Korban is also not yet fit to eat?

(a) Rav Chisda speaks about the Basar of the Korban Pesach or the Chalos Todah that one ate before they were ready to be eaten.
What does this refer to?

(b) What did Rav Dimi bar Chin'na used to say in this regard?

(c) What is the Chidush?

(a) The Beraisa comments on the Pasuk in Tzav "ve'ha'Nefesh Asher Tochal mi'Besar Zevach Shelamim Asher la'Hashem".
What does the Tana learn from "Asher la'Hashem"?

(b) What does Rava try to prove from there?

(c) We refute the proof in one of two ways. One of them, in that Eimurin are at least fit for Hashem, whereas the Pesach and the Lachmei Todah are not. what is the alternative refutation?

***** Hadran Alach 'Kol ha'Pesulin' *****

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(a) Most Korbanos whose blood is sprinkled on the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon, require two Matanos on the two diagonally opposite corners (that have a Yesod).
What will be the Din if the Kohen performed only one?

(b) Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel agree on this. They argue however, by a Chatas.
How many Matanos does a Chatas require?

(c) What is then Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel's bone of contention?

(d) According to Beis Hillel, what will be the Din therefore, if the Kohen places the first Matanah ...

  1. ... correctly, and the second Matanah with a Machsheves Chutz li'Zemanah?
  2. ... with a Machsheves Chutz li'Zemanah, and the second with a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomah?
(a) What is the basic difference between the Matanos of the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon (which we just discussed) and those of the Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi?

(b) What will be the Din if the Kohen placed any one of the Matanos on the Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi with a Machsheves she'Lo bi'Zemano?

(c) Why is it not Pigul?

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