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Zevachim 62

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(a) To explain how they able to extend the Mizbe'ach, how does Rav Yosef finally Darshen the Pasuk in Divrei Hayamim, which compares the Mizbe'ach to the Bayis? How big was the Bayis of the second Beis-Hamikdash?

(b) Then why did Shlomoh not extend the Mizbe'ach, to allow the wine to drain through the Mizbe'ach to the pit, as we explained?

(c) In that case, why did they add only four Amos, and not thirty-two (to make up the sixty Amos)?

(a) We ask how the Anshei K'neses ha'Gedolah knew the exact location of the Mizbe'ach. Why do we take for granted that they knew the exact location of the Bayis?

(b) According to Rebbi Elazar, they were shown a vision which helped them solve this dilemma.
Which vision?

(c) What did they see in the location of the Mizbe'ach (the Makom ha'Ma'arachah presumably), in the opinion of Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha?

(d) How did their sense of smell help them to solve the problem, according to Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeni?

(a) Rabah bar bar Chanah explains that three Nevi'im came back with them from Bavel.
What were their names?

(b) If one of them described the measurements of the Mizbe'ach, and the second one pin-pointed its location, what did the third one teach in connection with bringing Korbanos nowadays?

(c) According to Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov in a Beraisa, the second Navi taught them the two latter facts.
What teaching did the third one convey, in connection with the script in which the Seifer-Torah should be written?

(d) In which script was it originally given to us?

(a) What does the Beraisa say about ...
  1. ... the Keranos, the Kevesh (the ramp), the Yesod (the base) and the squareness of the Mizbe'ach ha'Olah?
  2. ... the length, the breadth and the height?
(b) Which word is written by each item in the first list that determines the stringent ruling that pertains to it, as Rav Huna explains?

(c) Rebbi interprets the Pasuk in Terumah "Tachas Karkov ha'Mizbe'ach" as 'Kiyur'.
What is 'Kiyur'?

(d) How does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah interpret "Karkov"?

(a) In that case, we ask, why is 'Kiyur' not crucial to the Avodah, according to Rebbi, and the Sovev, according to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah?
What do we answer?

(b) The Beraisa describes what they did when, one day, one of the Keranos become chipped.
How did that happen?

(c) What did they do to repair it?

(d) How effective was the repair?

(a) After the Tana Kama lists the four items that are crucial to the validity of the Mizbe'ach (as we learned above), what does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b) What do we assume Rebbi would say?

(c) What problem do we have with the Beraisa 'Eizehu Karkov, bein Keren le'Keren, Makom Hiluch Raglei ha'Kohanim'?

(d) How do we then amend the Beraisa?

(a) The "Mishear Ma'aseh Reships Nechoshes" (a copper girdle resembling a fishing-net, that encircled the Mizbe'ach). Where did they place it? How wide (deep) was? What purpose did it serve?

(b) What Kashya does this pose on the current Beraisa?

(c) How does Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak reconcile the Beraisa with the Pasuk?
How many kinds of Karkov were there on the Mizbe'ach?

(d) What purpose did the Karkov on top of the Mizbe'ach serve? How wide was it?

(a) We learned in the Beraisa that the length, the width and the height of the Mizbe'ach are not crucial to the Avodah.
How does Rebbi Mani qualify this statement?

(b) How did the Chachamim react when Rav Yosef gave the Shi'ur of Moshe's Mizbe'ach as one Amah?

(c) How did Abaye interpret Rav Yosef's statement? What did Rav Yosef comment?

(d) What did Rav Yosef mean when he referred to those who laughed as 'B'nei Keturah'?

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(a) What did Rebbi Tarfon's nephews (sons of his sister) comment when he misquoted the Pasuk in Chayei Sarah "Va'yosef Avraham Va'yikach Ishah u'Shemah Yuchni''?

(b) Why did he do that?

(a) What were the 'G'zirin' (otherwise known as the 'Sh'nei Gizrei Eitzim')?

(b) What were their measurements, in the time of Moshe, according to Rav Avin bar Huna Amar Rav Chama bar Guri'ah?

(c) Rebbi Yirmiyah claims that they were small-size Amos. But Rav Yosef cites the Pasuk in Vayikra "al ha'Eitzim Asher al ha'Eish Asher al ha'Mizbe'ach".
What do we learn from that Pasuk?

(d) How does he query Rebbi Yirmiyah's statement from there?

(a) The Mishnah describes the ramp that led up to the south side of the Mizbe'ach.
How long and how wide was it?

(b) Rav Huna derives its location from the Pasuk "al Yerech ha'Mishkan Tzafonah".
What does he learn from ...

  1. ... there?
  2. ... the Pasuk "Ravu'a"? What does that come to preclude?
(c) Then why did the Torah write "Ravu'a", rather than 'Ravutz'?
(a) Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa learns it from the Pasuk in Yechezkel "u'Ma'aloseihu P'nos Kadim".
What does the Pasuk mean?

(b) How does Rebbi Yehudah try to prove from there that the ramp must have been on the south side of the Mizbe'ach? On which principle is it based?

(c) On what grounds do we refute Rebbi Yehudah's proof?

(a) We ultimately derive the location of the ramp from the 'Yam shel Shlomoh' (the gigantic Mikveh that Shlomoh made in the Azarah). What do we prove from the Beraisa quoted by Rami bar Yechezkel "Omed al Sh'neim-Asar Bakar, Sheloshah Ponim Tzafonah, u'Sheloshah Ponim Yamah ... ".

(b) Why can we not refute this proof too, by pointing out that the Pasuk is needed for its inherent Chidush (like we refuted Rebbi Yehudah's proof)?

(a) Rebbi Shimon ben Yossi ben Lekunyah asked Rebbi Yossi whether Rebbi Shimon really spoke of a slight gap between the ramp and the Mizbe'ach. Why was Rebbi Yossi surprised at the question?

(b) How did he extrapolate it from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Ve'asisa Olosechah ha'Basar ve'ha'Dam"?

(c) On what grounds did he reject the suggestion that the Kohen could fulfill the terms of the 'Hekesh' by standing next to the Ma'arachah and tossing the Eivarim on to the Ma'arachah?

(d) How does Rav Papa preclude the previous suggestion from the Hekesh (that serves as the source for this Halachah) of Basar to Dam?

(a) Rav Yehudah refers to two small ramps that led off the main ramp.
What was their significance? Where did they lead to?

(b) Did these two ramps actually lead all the way to the Sovev and the Yesod (respectively)?

(c) How does Rav Yehudah learn the gap from the word "Saviv"?

(d) From where does Rebbi Avahu learn it?

(e) In fact, both words are needed.
What would we have thought had the Torah only written ...

  1. ... "Saviv"?
  2. ... "Ravu'a"?
(a) We have already discussed the Mishnah in Midos, which gives the combined lengths of the ramp and the Mizbe'ach as sixty-two Amos, instead of sixty-four, as one would have expected.
What does Rami bar Chama say about the regular gradient of man-made ramps ? What is the ratio of their height to length?

(b) Then why was the ramp of the Mizbe'ach a little less than that (one Amah per three and a half Amos plus one a third Etzba'os)?

(c) What was the gradient of the two minor ramps that ran off the main ramp?

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