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Zevachim 67

ZEVACHIM 66-68 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the Dafyomi shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy Neff


(a) In a Beraisa, Rebbi Eliezer tries to prove his opinion (i.e. that Olas ha'Of le'Shem Chatas ha'Of is subject to Me'ilah) from an Asham that one Shechted in the North as a Shelamim.
Why must he be speaking about prior to the Zerikah?

(b) What does he prove from there?

(c) How does Rebbi Yehoshua repudiate Rebbi Eliezer's proof?

(d) Finally, Rebbi Eliezer attempts to disprove Rebbi Yehosua's opinion from an Asham that one Shechted in the south as an Asham, where besides changing its name, he also changed its location.
How does Rebbi Yehoshua counter that?

(a) Rebbi Eliezer remained silent. Rava asked why he did not query Rebbi Yehoshua further from 'Asham she'Shachto be'Darom le'Shem Shelamim be'Shinuy Ba'alim'.
What does he mean by this? Why does this pose a Kashya on Rebbi Yehoshua?

(b) To answer the Kashya, he cites Rav Ada bar Ahavah.
How does Rav Ada bar Ahavah explain Rebbi Yehoshua?

(c) How does this answer the Kashya? What does Rava prove from the fact that Rebbi Eliezer did not ask it?

(a) What do we mean when we then ask 'I Hachi, Chatas ha'Of Nami, she'As'ah Lema'alah ke'Ma'aseh ha'Olah ... be'Idach Si'man, Timashech Ve'tehavi Olas ha'Of'? What is the basis of this Kashya?

(b) How do we try to support this Kashya by citing Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Ban'ah, who says 'Kach Hi Hatza'ah shel Mishnah'?

(c) What alternative interpretation do we give to 'Kach hi Hatza'ah shel Mishnah' that proves quite the opposite?

(d) How does Rav Ashi refute the Kashya once and for all? Why can one not compare an Olas ha'Of that is brought below the Chut ha'Sikra with a Chatas ha'Of that is brought above it, in this regard?

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(a) We ask on Rav Ada bar Ahavah from a Mishnah in Kanin, which discusses a case where Rachel and Le'ah who had given birth, purchased a pair of birds between them. What is the case? What were the two birds needed for?

(b) What does the Tana rule in a case where the Kohen brought ...

  1. ... both birds above the Chut ha'Sikra?
  2. ... one above the Chut ha'Sikra and one below it?
(c) We ask from the second case on Rav Ada bar Ahavah, why the bird that was brought below the Chut ha'Sikra should not be Kasher anyway, even it is was the Olah, like Rav Ada explained.
What do we answer? How do we reconcile Rav Ada bar Ahavah with this Beraisa?
(a) The Mishnah also discusses a case where Rachel and Le'ah required six birds between them
Why is that?

(b) Between them, they brought one Chatas and one Olah, one pair of unspecified birds and one pair of specified birds. Like in the previous case, if the Kohen brought all the birds above the Chut ha'Sikra, half of them are Olos. What does the Tana say in a case where the Kohen brought half of them above and half of them below the Chut ha'Sikra? Which birds are Kasher?

(c) On what basis are they Kasher?

(d) What will the two women be obligated to do to make up for the specified birds that are both Pasul?

(a) We now ask on Rav Ada bar Ahavah the same Kashya as we asked on the previous Mishnah.
What makes this case different than the previous one?
Why can we not give the same answer as we gave there?

(b) Why can we not answer by establishing the Mishnah in Kanim not like Rebbi Yehoshua?

(a) What does the Mishnah in Kanim say about a pregnant woman who makes a Neder to bring a Kan (a pair of birds) should she give birth to a boy, when she does indeed give birth to a boy?

(b) Why are both birds in the second pair Olos?

(c) Assuming that she did not designate the four birds that she subsequently brings, what must the Kohen do when she hands them to him?

(a) The Tana then discusses what the Din will be if the Kohen mistakenly brings two of the birds above the Chut ha'Sikra and two below it, without consulting the woman.
Why did he do that? What must he have assumed that would obligate her to bring two Chata'os and two Olos?

(b) What does the woman now have to do, assuming that ...

  1. ... both Kinin comprised the same species (either pigeons or young doves)?
  2. ... they comprised two different species? Why is that?
(c) How would the Din differ if, in addition, she specified which species she would bring for her Neder, but forgot what she said, assuming that ...
  1. ... both Kinin comprised the same species (either pigeons or young doves)?
  2. ... they comprised two different species?
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