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Zevachim 79

ZEVACHIM 79 (29 Av) - "Mechabdo b'Chayav, Mechabdo b'Moso" (see Kidushin 31b). This Daf has been dedicated by the Trebitsch family l'Iluy Nishmas Eliezer Shmuel Binyomin ben Mayer Trebitsch, in honor of his Yahrzeit. T'N'TZ'B'H.


(a) What does Rava say about 'Miyn be'Miyno' and 'Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno'?

(b) What third item does he add to the list?

(a) Earlier in the Sugya, we cited Resh Lakish, who says 'Isurin Mevatlin Zeh es Zeh'.
What does Rebbi Elazar say? What is his source?

(b) The Tana who holds 'Ein Mitzvos Mevatlos Zu es Zu' is Hillel.
From where do we know that? What does he say?

(c) What is Hillel's source?

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(a) The sBeraisa discusses a 'Charsan of a Zav and a Zavah'.
What is a 'Charsan'?

(b) What does the Tana mean when he declares it Tamei the first two times, and Tahor the third time?

(c) What is the reason for this?

(a) According to the Tana Kama, the Halachah will differ if, instead of water, it was 'washed' three times with the urine of a Tahor person.
What does he rule there? Why the difference?

(b) Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov disagrees with the Tana Kama.
What does he say?

(c) Who is the Tana Kama?

(a) Another Beraisa declares flax that was spun by a Nidah and that someone subsequently moved, to be Tahor (despite the fact that presumably, she spat on the flax whilst spinning it).
Why is that?

(b) What does the Tana Kama hold in a case where the spit is still wet?

(c) Rebbi Yehudah is even more stringent.
What does he say?

(d) His words imply that this is the Halachah even if the flax was washed many times.
How do we reconcile this with the previous Beraisa, where even Rebbi Yehudah agrees that by the third washing, the Tamei urine has all been exuded?

(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'be'Dam ha'Tamtzis Yishafech le'Amah; Rebbi Eliezer Machshir'. According to Rebbi Z'vid, they are arguing over whether, on principle, the Chachamim would issue a decree in the Beis-Hamikdash (the Tana Kama) or not (Rebbi Eliezer).
What decree are we referring to? Why should the blood really be Kasher?

(b) What is Rebbi Eliezer's reason?

(c) Is the Machlokes then confined to Dam ha'Tamtzis?

(a) What does Rav Papa say regarding the Chachamim in the Beis-Hamikdash?

(b) Then why does Rebbi Eliezer declare the blood Kasher, in spite of the Dam ha'Tamtzis?

(c) Does the Machlokes extend to the blood of Pasul Korbanos, according to Rebbi Papa too?

(d) What Kashya do we now ask on Rav Z'vid? What is the answer?

(a) 'Dam Temimim be'Dam Ba'alei-Mumin Yishafech le'Amah'.
What will Rebbi Eliezer rule in a case where it was cups of blood that became mixed up?

(b) Why does he not dispute the ruling in the Mishnah?

(c) How do the Chachamim counter Rebbi Eliezer's ruling?

(a) What does Rebbi Eliezer say about 'Nitnin le'Ma'alah she'Nis'arvu be'Nitnin le'Matah'?

(b) How does he justify sprinkling the blood that belongs Lematah, Lema'alah?

(c) Why does he not say 'Yiten Lematah ... '?

(d) What do the Rabbanan rule ...

  1. ... Lechatchilah?
  2. ... if Bedieved, the Kohen followed Rebbi Eliezer's ruling?
(a) Our Mishnah rules 'ha'Nitnin be'Matanah Achas she'Nis'arvu be'Nitnin be'Matanah Achas, Yinasnu be'Matanah Achas'.
What is the case?

(b) ' ... Matan Arba be'Matan Arba, Yinasnu be'Matan Arba'.
What is the case? What is meant here by 'Arba'?

(c) 'Matan Arba be'Matanah Achas' says Rebbi Eliezer, 'Yinasnu be'Matan Arba'.
What principle will we need to apply, on the assumption that the Tana is referring to Ta'aroves Dam (the blood of two Korbanos that became mixed up in one cup)?

(d) How else might we interpret the Mishnah?

(a) Rebbi Yehoshua maintains that the Kohen performs only one Matanah.
How can a Korban that requires 'four' Matanos be Yotze with only one?

(b) What objection does Rebbi Eliezer raise to Rebbi Yehoshua's ruling?

(c) How does Rebbi ...

  1. ... Eliezer counter Rebbi Yehoshua's assertion, that by performing four Matanos, one transgresses 'bal Tosif'?
  2. ... Yehoshua counter Rebbi Eliezer's assertion, that by performing one Matanah, one transgresses 'bal Tigra'?
(d) What is Rebbi Yehoshua's final argument, taking both arguments into account?
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